06-14-2020, 10:23 PM | #1 |
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Anyone using Quick Jack w/ X3M
If so, which model?
Been considering this for my garage to use with both my X3M and M2C . However, if I understand correctly, the only version compatible with the X3 M lift point separation of 68” is the BL-6000 XLT, which I do not think will work with the M2 as the 6000’s overall length is too long for the M2’s tire spread. I guess I’m wondering if anyone is somehow successfully using a model other than the 6000? |
06-15-2020, 09:05 AM | #4 | |
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One mention of the QuickJack was shot down, and no indication of which model would work for both vehicles |
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06-15-2020, 10:41 PM | #5 |
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BL-7000SLX with the SLX frame extensions doing a sideways lift. Even with the frame extensions, its still too short.
Go with the 6000's but use them sideways for the M2, I wish I had done my research like you, but I bought them before the car arrived...my set-up weighs a ton... |
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It was really surprising to me that the X3 lift points were so wide! |
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06-16-2020, 03:41 PM | #7 | |
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I was so tempted to get a QuickJack but they seem like it would only save me a few minutes compared to a floor jack and all the adapters really increase the cost. Not to mention the extra weight of dragging it around. |
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06-16-2020, 04:13 PM | #9 |
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I measured 63" between the driver and passenger side lift points, so it appears that the 5000EXT would work in a perpendicular to normal orientation on the X3, without any extensions needed as it will accommodate up to 66". However the 5000SLX would require extensions.
Other option is the 6000 in the normal orientation on the X3 without needing any extensions. Last edited by Midtown2020; 06-16-2020 at 04:19 PM.. |
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06-16-2020, 08:18 PM | #10 | |
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Actually I got the idea for the perpendicular lift from their site, otherwise it was going to be a return. For what I need it for, it works very well, albeit heavy. Last edited by j080808; 06-16-2020 at 10:21 PM.. |
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06-17-2020, 11:21 AM | #11 | ||
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It is possible to get the quickjack BL-5000SLX (<60") + SLX frame extension (you will still need the extension to reach the lift points sideways/perpendicular for up to 66"), which gives the 5000SLX the same reach as an extended (EXT) length model (66" max lift point spread, which is 2" or so shorter than what you need if lifting the normal way) but need to put QJ sideways (like in video link), which is not ideal. Costco has the 5000 on sale during summer time (for USD1k). This is what I have done not having done my homework ahead of time. Again though If you can and think you will in the future be buying long wheel base cars, go with 6000 XLT. And I didn't get shot down because it didn't work. I got shot down as an idea as people were talking about cheaper and more common floor jacks . |
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06-17-2020, 11:28 AM | #12 | |
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I guess it depends on what other cars you drive/will be driving. Edit: didn't see OP drives a M2, but looks like a solution was already found A Tesla model S will need a 6000XLT as longer wheel base. |
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12-14-2020, 12:45 AM | #13 |
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Caution Regarding "False Lock"
I had my QuickJack BL-5000SLX partially collapse with a 4,000 lb car on it. That was because its cams can form a "false lock" if you raise the QJ up past the mid-lift position a little bit more before going back down into (what you expect) to be lock. If the cam feet have also passed the locking block, going back down can jam the cams against the lock instead of jamming the rigid ends of the locking bars. The cams when jammed into "false lock" can support the entire weight of your car, but unpredictably break free.
Normal lock won't break free and I feel quite safe under my QJ (with backup jackstands of course). I had used my QJ many times without incident for fluid changes, brake jobs, and suspension work. I never suspected it could even go into "false lock" especially since BendPak touts the locking mechanism as automatic and fail safe. No instructional videos specifically warn against letting the cams go past the lock blocks. Luckily, I noticed that the cams were jammed into the locking blocks. I was not under the care and was pondering if that was normal, when BANG! My QJ partially collapsed. Luckily, the normal locking arms happened to slam into the locking blocks without shearing anything. I was not under the car, but was horrified by the realization that I could have been under there with the hydraulics depressurized (as per instruction manual). There is nothing guaranteeing failure of a false lock would always result in the locking bars fortuitously catching instead of hopping over the lock blocks as the cams pivoted. I never had a problem - until I did. The only thing I did different was go up a little further before going down. Most users won't have run into this because impatience tends to make you go down as soon as you hear the bar ends go past the blocks. BUT if you happen to go up just a fraction longer, you may have the cams in perfect position to jam into a "false lock" 1. Never let the cams go past the locking bars. Only the ends of the locking bars should be allowed to go past before going back down. 2. Check specifically for false lock before trusting that the locks are actually engaged. The cams wiggle freely if in true lock. If the cams are jammed into false lock, you are not safe. I joined this forum so I could help fellow QuickJack owners beware of this hidden, high risk state. If you know about it specifically, it's easier to avoid. I don't want anyone to discover "false lock" the hard way while under their car. Were it my product, I would reshaped the cams so they are impossible to jam into "false lock." That could be retrofitted on existing QuickJacks. |
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12-14-2020, 01:02 PM | #15 |
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Great looking garage!
Just received confirmation that NTSB is looking into the QuickJack "false lock" issue report VOQ-11383040. Maybe we'll save a life. This is one thing that works great again and again, but if you go up just a second too long before going back down into mid-height lock block, you can get a dangerous "false lock." Be careful with yours. I continue using mine, but at least I am aware of and look for "false lock" |
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12-14-2020, 01:50 PM | #17 |
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Same here. Once in lock I depressurize fully just as the instructions.
The issue is that going up a little further and then back down into the half height lock position can result in the CAMS jamming into the lock instead. That held up 4,000 lbs post holding the down button to depressurize. It simply wasn't forming a true lock with the end of the locking bar. Instead the cams were creating a "false lock" state. NEVER let the cams go up past the locking point prior to going back down into lock. |
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12-14-2020, 03:21 PM | #18 |
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Isn't it annoying to use the jacks sideways like that?
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i was considering welding some extensions that were 69" (heh) sideways could work but not for removing exhaust and shit. honestly i did i exhaust off job i just used 2 jacks and jacked up the back moved up front when i needed to do the front.
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01-24-2022, 02:52 PM | #20 |
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Just bought a pair for Quickjack 6000 XLT Frames for the X4MC.
Already have a 5000TL set for other cars as the XLT frames are too long for them. So I now have a double set of frames in my garage.
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01-24-2022, 11:58 PM | #21 |
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I want one of these units. But it also scares me at the same time & I don't fully trust it yet.
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I have the 7000lb standard length unit and it's low enough to get under a M4 and Corvette and with the truck adapters it's high enough to lift my neighbors Ram 1500. I would highly recommend them and as long as you set it down on the locks, it's safe as can be
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