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      08-28-2015, 06:48 PM   #1
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Can the car run with one blown turbo and one working?

I was doing some spirited driving. After a while, my car falls flat on its face. I can hear the turbo spooling up but really loudly. The car has ZERO power. It drives fine but there is no power at all. If I blew a turbo, would the car still run on the first turbo and fall flat where the secondary kicks in? Or, is it a boost leak? I don't have time to check today, just wondering.

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      08-28-2015, 07:02 PM   #2
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Any codes, log and see if there's any boost, more likely boost leak, blown turbos still make boost just burn oil unless they're completely annihilated
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      08-28-2015, 07:06 PM   #3
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No codes, no smoke blowing out of the exhaust......probably boost leak then huh? If it was blown, this would be my excuse to go vargas or rb's....but o'well
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      08-28-2015, 07:16 PM   #4
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More than likely a blown charge pipe.
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      08-28-2015, 07:22 PM   #5
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Pretty sure the turbos work in tandem not a primary and secondary
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      08-28-2015, 07:29 PM   #6
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Turbos piggyback each other to hold requested boost, if ones falling behind the other compensates for it ... you can confirm that by removing the electrical connection to pressure converter on one, it will still try to boost almost same, just little delayed
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      08-28-2015, 07:52 PM   #7
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Doubt it's the turbo. Sounds like busted charge pipe. High pitched turbo whine/spool is what mine sounded like after exploding at the TB.
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I found the problem...this is cracked off... i am assuming it is the charge pipe??? Can I drive at all like this? Shop I go to is 30 miles away
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      08-28-2015, 09:24 PM   #9
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you can, just make sure it's not going to suck anything in.

p.s. clean your air filters.
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will aftermarket charge pipe pass visual inspection for CA smog? I won't put an aftermarket bov or anything...
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I found the problem...this is cracked off... i am assuming it is the charge pipe??? Can I drive at all like this? Shop I go to is 30 miles away
Ya looks like the charge pipe is cracked / popped off. Remove the intakes and take a closer look. Make sure you have the C-Clip still on there and the o-ring and get an aftermarket charge pipe installed. ER is the best brand out there so that would be my recommendation. Good time to get a BOV if you were thinking of one or just get the OEM DV setup charge pipe. Either way get one ASAP as you shouldn't be driving with a blown charge pipe.

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will aftermarket charge pipe pass visual inspection for CA smog? I won't put an aftermarket bov or anything...
yes just get the anodized black one with stock / OEM DVs and you should be set. I'll shoot you a PM.

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Wow it must be charepipe season mine just went this past saturday as well.
Mine cracked at the same spot.

My car drives slower than a prius.
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Wow it must be charepipe season mine just went this past saturday as well.
Mine cracked at the same spot.

My car drives slower than a prius.
Phew, I finally installed my ER CP Thursday, I was running 20psi on my stock chargepipe.
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      08-29-2015, 01:27 PM   #15
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Wow it must be charepipe season mine just went this past saturday as well.
Mine cracked at the same spot.

My car drives slower than a prius.
Failed OEM charge pipes are very common!

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I'm running a polished ER chargepipe with Synapse bov and I had no problem passing CA smog/visual back in December. Depends on the shop though.
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      08-31-2015, 03:30 PM   #17
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I've run a stock CP & DVs on two N54s up to 21psi without issues. They're 99% hype... I rarely see failed ones.
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I've run a stock CP & DVs on two N54s up to 21psi without issues. They're 99% hype... I rarely see failed ones.
We sold 4 this weekend, all as a result of cracked stock charge pipes.

1 guy replaced his and still had a boost leak. Replaced with Turbosmart DV, boost leak gone.

Don't believe the hype... haha
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Wow it must be charepipe season mine just went this past saturday as well.
Mine cracked at the same spot.

My car drives slower than a prius.
weather starting to cool down, but still dry?

hell yeah it's big boost season!
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I've run a stock CP & DVs on two N54s up to 21psi without issues. They're 99% hype... I rarely see failed ones.
We sold 4 this weekend, all as a result of cracked stock charge pipes.

1 guy replaced his and still had a boost leak. Replaced with Turbosmart DV, boost leak gone.

Don't believe the hype... haha
LOL +1...

Stock cp is like a ticking time bomb good luck to those who don't replace it.
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LOL +1...

Stock cp is like a ticking time bomb good luck to those who don't replace it.
It seems to be getting worse as well. I guess as the cars age the charge pipe doesn't age gracefully.

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      08-31-2015, 08:03 PM   #22
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Ya looks like the charge pipe is cracked / popped off. Remove the intakes and take a closer look. Make sure you have the C-Clip still on there and the o-ring and get an aftermarket charge pipe installed. ER is the best brand out there so that would be my recommendation. Good time to get a BOV if you were thinking of one or just get the OEM DV setup charge pipe. Either way get one ASAP as you shouldn't be driving with a blown charge pipe.

Mike
I replaced my stock charge pipe with ER in black from Mike at N54. Install wasn't too bad and with double clamps, I'm happily boosting to 18-20PSi without issues. The black pipe looks stock. The only thing that doesn't is the silicone coupling because it has an ER logo. You could face the logo toward the ground, however, and it wouldn't be noticeable at all.

I used forge diverter valves, which in black look completely stock as well (though mine are chrome because they were out of black ones).

As for clamps, I used the TurboSmart/Murray clamps rather than the t-bolt clamps that come with the ER kit... It's mostly preference as far as clamps go.

Good luck!
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