[thomaslime]

pm me the price shipped to 11223

[MrChessy]

23bhp improvement? Isn't that kinda high from the dynos? Are these numbers correct?

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by cincy335i

Can someone explain this dyno?!?!? I have never seen a dyno like this, is the gain listed over stock? AIT's, etc?? This doesn't even look like a normal (to our standards) dyno. I guess I am just looking for some clarification and information on this intake, gains over stock and reduced AIT's? Thanks.

Blue line is measured wheel HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank TQ
Black line is load

No gains are mentioned. Only results. You don't know what the dyno would be without the filter.

Originally Posted by MrChessy

23bhp improvement? Isn't that kinda high from the dynos? Are these numbers correct?

There is no baseline.

He has :
- wheel hp *with* their filter
- crank hp *with* their filter
- crank tq *with* their filter
- load

There is no data *without* their filter, so you can't say what the improvement was.

-scheherazade

[MrChessy]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Blue line is measured wheel HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank TQ
Black line is load

No gains are mentioned. Only results. You don't know what the dyno would be without the filter.



There is no baseline.

He has :
- wheel hp *with* their filter
- crank hp *with* their filter
- crank tq *with* their filter
- load

There is no data *without* their filter, so you can't say what the improvement was.

-scheherazade

I see, so the dyno means absolutely nothing without the stock figures. Man, this blows.

[ragingclue]

That dyno is pretty useful as long as you're not trying to determine the effectiveness of the air box.

[kjrulz]

pm price 06810

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

That dyno is pretty useful as long as you're not trying to determine the effectiveness of the air box.

I just smiled SO WIDE. You should see me... I'm just glowing.

-scheherazade

[cincy335i]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Blue line is measured wheel HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank HP
Red line (1) is the equivalent expected crank TQ
Black line is load

No gains are mentioned. Only results. You don't know what the dyno would be without the filter.



There is no baseline.

He has :
- wheel hp *with* their filter
- crank hp *with* their filter
- crank tq *with* their filter
- load

There is no data *without* their filter, so you can't say what the improvement was.

-scheherazade

Thank you for that, it is exactly what I thought and was looking for. +1
So there is in fact no tanglibe data to suggest it is helping (gains in hp or lower AIT's) or hurting (reduced hp and higher AIT's)? Thanks again

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by cincy335i

Thank you for that, it is exactly what I thought and was looking for. +1
So there is in fact no tanglibe data to suggest it is helping (gains in hp or lower AIT's) or hurting (reduced hp and higher AIT's)? Thanks again

Correct.
The dyno only tells us that the car 'runs'.

Keep in mind that a stock car is not choking, so there *should* be little to no gains. (It's essentially a 'so what' comparison)

If you run a tune, then you have the possibility of real gains.

The more aggressive the tune, the higher potential there is in gains.

So really, there should be a testing standard.
Like :
- All intakes must be dyno'd in a car with SSTT and no other mods.
- Baseline and intake must be tested within 30 minutes of each other.
- etc...

Just saying, be careful what you ask for.
An intake that's vastly superior to another at high power levels can look pretty miserable on a stock car, where you're choosing a 'best intake' on 1 or 2 hp (which could easily be within standard variance from typical run to typical run. Or one simply flows better and has better top end on a dyno, or one has better ram-air properties and has better top end on a highway, etc).

-scheherazade

[Frank@M-Force_Design]

Hi there:
We will do Dyno on a local customer's 335. With Stock intake and with our Simota 335 intake. Stay Tuned

[turboboosted]

The Carbon Fiber cover is pure sex

[Frank@M-Force_Design]

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[ThreeTwentyEightI]

PM price to 14845, thanks

[Frank@M-Force_Design]

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[lawdude]

Don't send me a pm. Since I got my letter today from BMW I'm seriously considering selling my car.

[TheTwinz]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Don't send me a pm. Since I got my letter today from BMW I'm seriously considering selling my car.

HPFP letter? or is there another letter going out I'm unaware of.

[Josephkao]

PM me price shipped to 92602 please

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by TheTwinz

HPFP letter? or is there another letter going out I'm unaware of.

That's it.

[Frank@M-Force_Design]

Originally Posted by Josephkao

PM me price shipped to 92602 please

sent

[MrChessy]

If you are looking for cosmetics then this would looks nice, but we have yet to see the dynos tested on either a 135 or 335. To justify purchasing this intake, the figures must be at least double digits gain in hp for that price to be honest.

[Frank@M-Force_Design]

Originally Posted by MrChessy

If you are looking for cosmetics then this would looks nice, but we have yet to see the dynos tested on either a 135 or 335. To justify purchasing this intake, the figures must be at least double digits gain in hp for that price to be honest.

We will have dyno done for this intake for sure! between stock box and the simota one.

[MarkE92]

Can't wait for the results of the dyno........ let us know asap....

Thanks