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This ain't no Civic. You wish a new Civic would look this well finished and put together for starters... Haterz gonna hate.
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That car had a horrendous front end. We never got any updated 1 series after that E89.
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Look, my point isn't that BMWs are bad but that Kia/Hyundai have learned fast and have taken steps to emulate the German brands very well. Add that to a better reliability perception, and you have a growing problem. BMW is falling asleep at the wheel. |
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However, BMW is making what the market wants and to that end they are doing quite well for themselves. Would this be my default choice, no but it has its place and helps to pay the bills to keep the operation going and found the development of the BMWs you and I are more willing to buy. To me the reliability of E-Chassis BMW products from the mid to late 1990s until the early 2010s was in a definite state of decay. I believe newer products are turning the corner for the better but time will tell. Now on the subject of Korean cars... They are built to a price point and corners are cut where the customer's eyes can't see or the fingertips can't feel/reach. And this includes Genesis. There is no free lunch.You simply get what you pay for. If you like their value proposition, be my guest. You'll see me driving a Toyoduh or Honduh before you catch me in a Hyundai or Kia product. Just not for me. They poached Ze Germans because on their own they can't build a decent car if their lives depended on it. They are just facsimiles of German cars, no originality in my book.
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Nobody cares if its faster than the E90 335 when it looks like a Ford Focus and it's driving dynamics are mediocre in comparison. We can agree to disagree. I understand the business case for this car but am displeased with the execution. The ends don't justify the means in my mind. The press has been lukewarm to outright negative about this car for good reason, although that won't matter when it comes to sales.
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Why is it on here whenever any kind of video or post arrives it very quickly inundated with hateful garbage? I mean its almost as if the commenters feel threatened in some way by this car. As if all of sudden bmw is going to get rid of rwd cars...that they will make m cars fwd biased etc? The same mentality took hold when the supra was released. The Toyota fans went awol that bmw was involved in anyway. And all the comments are against the looks and not the content or other aspects..not one has test driven one. This is but a tiny sliver of bmw group overall products. There is something for everyone.
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I will say this read as surprisingly positive, driving dynamic wise
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Im not a fan of the looks.
But! This is great value. Fully loaded M235i, let say 10% discount which is easy to get, thats under 50k for a 300 HP BMW with all the bells and whistles in the class. Add loyalty discounts and creative leasing and you have a potential good seller. Just saying, as a package its very appealing.
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You people think this isn't good looking? What kind of drugs are you on. I came from a 2018 civic si to this m235. My civic doesn't hold a candle to this car. It drives nothing like a fwd car either. You wouldn't know it either. Funny how everyone is bitching about it but the rs3 and golf r both use haldex with great results.
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