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We did plan to drive it. Interior felt low budget, trunk was smaller than we expected. It was on the showroom floor and would have been a big hassle to get out to drive so we passed, took a new 3 out instead. Much better for what we need.
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Holy C**P! A hardly optioned 228xi GC is $40K!! My comparable e46 325i (with a straight 6) was $33k new.
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In a couple years BMW will come out and say they won't make any more sport sedans since people don't buy them. What they're missing is that people don't want the BMW sport sedans that they're making because they have lost their attractiveness. Build a proper front engine rear drive 2 series sedan or grand coupe and that'll bring back some of the brand enthusiasts. Just like the M2 did. On the other hand it's probably too late. They need to bring a proper 4 wheel electric in a 2 series sedan form factor.
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Just saw a "Fast Fact" in an email from BMWNA:
"The BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe won the coveted title of Most Beautiful Car of the Year at the 35th Festival Automobile International in Paris".
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Shame on BMW for sticking the fake 'M' badge on this.
I also can't unsee the hideous fwd engine placement. Such a snub nose and high hood showing off how high off the ground and how forward the engine is. I will credit bmw that the Haldex they use is very good and you can't tell it's fwd based. But man it's ugly. |
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another good review of the M235i Gran coupe
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Jason Cammisa's Instagram Review (not for the faint of heart).
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All concepts of BMW look sharp and have lines of which one would believe that they have nailed it this time. Then they present the production version, and everything that made the concept great is gone! This designer team is totally incapable and BMW unworthy.
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I believe the 3 series is always the better car for everybody's needs! The 2GC is too expensive to have any relevance in the line-up.
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I'am afraid I'am with the majority here: why the monstrous grille and why so much Lexus/Inifinity oriented?
Although BMW motivates their design a posteriori, by referring intensely to its extended heritage, they did everything to deny it. My main gripe is the grille, which feels like a provocation and looks like a huge middle finger sticked out to the world. When I would own this vehicle, I would constantly feel obliged to motivate my buying decision inspite of it's provocative snout. With none of my 8 previous BMWs (e46/39/90/91/2 F10/11/G01) I ever felt the need to motivate why I bought it. |
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MotorWeek tests the 2020 2 Series Gran Coupe, also added to original post
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Wow, such hate. I understand why but I actually like the way the front end looks. The M235 I test drove was parked next to a 8 series coupe and the front end is actually much more similar than comparing a M235 to a M340, so I think that is a good thing for the M235. Coming from a Infiniti Q60RS I can say the M235 is almost just as much fun and just as quick. The new tech in the BMW M235 is better than that found in my Infiniti. I don't mind paying 50K for a fully loaded model. I have shortlisted the BMW M235 and I most likely am going to wait and buy one with 5K miles for 10K off the price.
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As an exercise in value, a mini countryman S all4 (2017+), which is practically the same mechanically as the m235i GC is dirt cheap, and new is about 10k cheaper comparatively optioned (not based on MSRP, but actual price paid vs M235i GC)...... it doesnt add up for BMW, they priced themselves out of that segment.
Compared to rival offerings in the same category, they all have things that bring them above the 2 series, for example the MB A35 AMG, the interior is just fantastic, great performance and you're not sitting 20 feet above the ground.... Cadillac CT4V, RWD LSD standard and can be bought new for 40k or less (MSRP is 45k, but no one pays that ever) with the awesome handling of the alpha platform.... thats just two options right there that are already heads and shoulders dynamically and aesthetically above the m235i GC.... BMW better start slashing prices or incentivize heavily, otherwise I see them sitting on lots for a while. |
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