[BMWLINY]

What would happen if you leased the car compared to you buying the car and they detected the piggyback?

Wouldn't it be worthless for BMW to disqualify your warranty if you had a leased car and they were going to be getting it back?? They would be disqualifying 1000's of leased warranty cars and they wouldn't be able to resell it??

By them canceling 1000's of warranties on the cars wouldnt this bring the overall value of the 335i average down??

Also I have NOT read about or seen anyones warranty that has been canceled due to a Tune through BMWNA. All that has happened are NON MOD friendly dealerships not allowing you to receive any warranty work on your car. It also seems to be a MAJOR reoccurring problem in California. All I know is that many people I know (about 10) who are running tunes in the Northeast have had no issues with the dealerships, and the dealerships know about their tune and still do warranty work.

[rallycobra]

Hmmm. I did 8 security deposits on my 2 yr/24k lease, so that's $5600. I could always do the buyout, but at my 69% residual, that would be over 37k on my car. Be careful, a tune on a lease car could be expensive depending on your situtation!

[Curt2000]

Mods better lock this thread since they deleted the thread that I put up about this last night within about 10 min....

[Dr_Dirt]

Tuning a car thats on a lease could open you up for some hefty fines from the owner of that car.
Roll the dice and take your chances, especially with this new software they have.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Tuning a car thats on a lease could open you up for some hefty fines from the owner of that car.
Roll the dice and take your chances, especially with this new software thay have.

It would no longer be a lease. At the end of the lease term you would have to purchase the car.

Simple as that.....

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

It would no longer be a lease. At the end of the lease term you would have to purchase the car.

Simple as that.....

That might be considered a hefty fine but at least you get a great car for that.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

That might be considered a hefty fine but at least you get a great car for that.

I guess you could say that....

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

It would no longer be a lease. At the end of the lease term you would have to purchase the car.

Simple as that.....

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Force you to buy to car????

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

Force you to buy to car????

If you modify a lease and decrease the value (ie: turbos more worn, warranty gone, etc.) they can force you to buy the car.

You can subsequently trade it in and pay the difference but regardless, it becomes your car....

[BMWLINY]

But with Audi they have no problem with the tunning of their cars and modifications

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by BMWLINY

But with Audi they have no problem with the tunning of their cars and modifications

Go buy a turboed audi, then tune it and blow up the motor. Then bring it to them broken w/ that tune on there and see if they fix it....

[BMWLINY]

First off Audi is WAY ahead of the game with tunning turboed engines........and they don't use piggy backs they use FLASHES which you will see, will be the way to go with foreseeable tunes with BMW.........also you aren't going to get a blown turbo from a FLASH on a stock Audi Turbo system..... I have the personal experience of owning 3 Audis with flashes, running no cats, full exhaust and down pipe, and never had any issues, warranty or anything "blowing up"

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by BMWLINY

First off Audi is WAY ahead of the game with tunning turboed engines........and they don't use piggy backs they use FLASHES which you will see, will be the way to go with foreseeable tunes with BMW.........also you aren't going to get a blown turbo from a FLASH on a stock Audi Turbo system..... I have the personal experience of owning 3 Audis with flashes, running no cats, full exhaust and down pipe, and never had any issues, warranty or anything "blowing up"

I didnt say you WOULD. I said if you did, and then took it to them with a tune they would do the same thing that BMW is doing

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Let me get this straight. Audi has zero problems with you adding a chip/flash to their cars and then bringing them to the dealerships for issues? Wow, I got the wrong car and I was in Germany too. Damnit.

[BMWLINY]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Let me get this straight. Audi has zero problems with you adding a chip/flash to their cars and then bringing them to the dealerships for issues? Wow, I got the wrong car and I was in Germany too. Damnit.

My dealership offers a varied selection of tunes to get after LEASING THE CAR TOO!!!

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by BMWLINY

My dealership offers a varied selection of tunes to get after LEASING THE CAR TOO!!!

Thats pretty cool. I didn't know Audi was that proactive to offer performance parts like downpipes to customers. Very cool.

[BMWLINY]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Thats pretty cool. I didn't know Audi was that proactive to offer performance parts like downpipes to customers. Very cool.

The downpipes are offered in the full Milltek exhaust they sell and offer at the performance section of the dealership.......

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I didnt say you WOULD. I said if you did, and then took it to them with a tune they would do the same thing that BMW is doing

Exactly..
I'm good friends with the owner of an Audi dealer and with regards to tunes, they are tolerant so long as its not obvious that the car was tuned. i.e. don't be leaving the tune on the car when you bring it in. They don't want to hear that the car has been tuned etc etc.
If you blow a motor they will investigate.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Exactly..
I'm good friends with the owner of an Audi dealer and with regards to tunes, they are tolerant so long as its not obvious that the car was tuned. i.e. don't be leaving the tune on the car when you bring it in. They don't want to hear that the car has been tuned etc etc.
If you blow a motor they will investigate.

Sounds like another car company I know of.....

[jdink]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I didnt say you WOULD. I said if you did, and then took it to them with a tune they would do the same thing that BMW is doing

your worse than all these people getting scared of their mods... your the one MAKING them scared of their mods.

[E30M3Driver]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

If you modify a lease and decrease the value (ie: turbos more worn, warranty gone, etc.) they can force you to buy the car.

You can subsequently trade it in and pay the difference but regardless, it becomes your car....

Can't make you buy the car, but can charge you a hefty enough penalty for excess wear and tear (of which warranty voiding mods is inclusive of) that might make you want to buy the car.

[BMWLINY]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Exactly..
I'm good friends with the owner of an Audi dealer and with regards to tunes, they are tolerant so long as its not obvious that the car was tuned. i.e. don't be leaving the tune on the car when you bring it in. They don't want to hear that the car has been tuned etc etc.
If you blow a motor they will investigate.

I have brought all my tunes and ALL mods on when bringing my car in for simple warranty things, like oil changes or a rear break light replacement. I have had NO ISSUES, plus a Test pipe is illegal in the state of NY and they said nothing. Now if my engine was to blow I would bring it to the aftermarket porsche turbo shop I go to for help when a couple DV's went bad and started leaking. Obviously if you are serious about modding you need to find a turbo shop that is friendly and helpful and will help you usually free of charge or for minimal dollars to find and fix any simple boost leaks or something like that, but if there was major damage like blown turbo I would have the Porsche turbo shop replace everything back to stock.