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      10-06-2021, 06:48 AM   #35465
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The short video clip of this is hilarious. Ole boy on the left eyeballing Snoop as he puffs away, then Snoop offers it to the officer, the officer semi-declines, Snoop persists aggressively, then the officer goes to town on it. I mean, how do you tell Snoop no and how to do you pass up the opportunity to smoke with him?
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The short video clip of this is hilarious. Ole boy on the left eyeballing Snoop as he puffs away, then Snoop offers it to the officer, the officer semi-declines, Snoop persists aggressively, then the officer goes to town on it. I mean, how do you tell Snoop no and how to do you pass up the opportunity to smoke with him?
A buddy of mine shared a joint with Ziggy Marley....I mean how do you say no to that.
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I'm not a physicist but I'm feeling wild this evening. Let's do this....

Assumptions:
- power line height of 4.5 meters
- car windshield height of 1.4 meters
- goose weight of 6.5 kg
- the goose caused a 5cm deep indentation into the windshield

We will calculate a couple things:
- speed upon impact
- force of impact upon windshield

V = sqrt(2*g*h)
Where:
V = velocity at impact
g = acceleration (in this case gravity)
h = distance (in this case height)

So... v = sqrt(2*9.8*3.1) = 7.795 m/s = 17.4 mph

Next...

F = (m*g*h)/d
Where:
F = force
M = mass
G = gravity
H = height
D = distance (in this case the distance the goose moved the windshield as a result of the impact)

So... F = (6.5*9.8*3.1)/0.05 = 3,949 N = 887 lbs

Upon further research, the average force required to break a car windshield is 9,400 psi.

So what's the lesson here? Absolutely nothing.
Well done; however, there simply isn't enough information to deduct any of this. I do like where your head is at, as I instantly started calculating in my head as well. Here are my thoughts:

Power line height you have listed as 4.5 meters, yet the NECs industry standard minimum for attachment points on a telephone pole is 18 feet on line lengths up to 20 feet. Roughly 5' variance, not much, but considering the weight of the Canada Goose, this will greatly impact velocity. Also another point of consideration is random heights of power lines. Although industry standards are set, they are rarely often adhered to. Also, pole height and attachment clearance regulation vary depending on the location of the pole itself. Thus creating an undeterminable height from whence the creature fell, also thus making velocity inconclusive, which pretty much destroys all calculations after.

Also, car windshield height that you have listed seems accurate; the grade (downward slope/angle) of said windshield needs to be accounted for as well. The grade of the windshield will also effect displacement of force upon impact.

You have calculated the goose created a 5cm (= >2") impression in the windshield, I would imagine that this figure is conservative at best based off the photo.

Next in order to accurately calculate velocity, the distance is extremely important and without knowing the exact distance or point of origin of acceleration, it is difficult to determine whether or not this creature reached terminal velocity. Also further considerations must include drag coefficient, projected area and mass of the falling object; but it looks like you covered this in force.

I was about to go down the gambit of info in order to attempt to calculate what I could from this, but there simply isn't enough data. I will reverse engineer the shit out of this so stand back.

if a windshield has a tensile strength of 9,400 psi this would equate to 64810718.5 N/m². This raises a plethora of questions for me now that can not be answered based solely off the picture. 1.) At what speed was the vehicle traversing during impact, 2.) What was the internal temperature and external temperature of the windshield, 3.) At what trajectory or angle did this impact take place and finally, what hue of brown/consistency of mass was the excrement removed from the operators underpants post impact.
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So what's the lesson here?
Next time, don't use a frozen chicken.....

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Well done; however, there simply isn't enough information to deduct any of this. I do like where your head is at, as I instantly started calculating in my head as well. Here are my thoughts:

Power line height you have listed as 4.5 meters, yet the NECs industry standard minimum for attachment points on a telephone pole is 18 feet on line lengths up to 20 feet. Roughly 5' variance, not much, but considering the weight of the Canada Goose, this will greatly impact velocity. Also another point of consideration is random heights of power lines. Although industry standards are set, they are rarely often adhered to. Also, pole height and attachment clearance regulation vary depending on the location of the pole itself. Thus creating an undeterminable height from whence the creature fell, also thus making velocity inconclusive, which pretty much destroys all calculations after.

Also, car windshield height that you have listed seems accurate; the grade (downward slope/angle) of said windshield needs to be accounted for as well. The grade of the windshield will also effect displacement of force upon impact.

You have calculated the goose created a 5cm (= >2") impression in the windshield, I would imagine that this figure is conservative at best based off the photo.

Next in order to accurately calculate velocity, the distance is extremely important and without knowing the exact distance or point of origin of acceleration, it is difficult to determine whether or not this creature reached terminal velocity. Also further considerations must include drag coefficient, projected area and mass of the falling object; but it looks like you covered this in force.

I was about to go down the gambit of info in order to attempt to calculate what I could from this, but there simply isn't enough data. I will reverse engineer the shit out of this so stand back.

if a windshield has a tensile strength of 9,400 psi this would equate to 64810718.5 N/m². This raises a plethora of questions for me now that can not be answered based solely off the picture. 1.) At what speed was the vehicle traversing during impact, 2.) What was the internal temperature and external temperature of the windshield, 3.) At what trajectory or angle did this impact take place and finally, what hue of brown/consistency of mass was the excrement removed from the operators underpants post impact.
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Not sure what was in those brownies I had last night...
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Can't help but think about that WKRP episode.
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I'm in supply chain... only physics I took was freshman year of undergrad after which I decided engineering wasn't my thing.

Not sure what was in those brownies I had last night...
Eh, I bag groceries and live in my parents basement. I'm kidding. I just needed a distraction this morning. This seemed like a good one for about 2 minutes. Continuing to work on an unsolvable problem lost its luster.....yet I continue to come to work every day.
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Continuing to work on an unsolvable problem lost its luster.....yet I continue to come to work every day.
I just do it for the paycheck.... as long as I keep talking about this magical "future state" with the execs, they keep signing my paychecks.
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I just do it for the paycheck.... as long as I keep talking about this magical "future state" with the execs, they keep signing my paychecks.
Magical future state of supply chain? What a shit show. Just another day in freight paradise - living the dream
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Magical future state of supply chain? What a shit show. Just another day in freight paradise - living the dream
Please get me my shit I've ordered!

I'm just kidding! As long as I keep saying the supply chain people can't get me the supplies I've ordered, I don't have to complete projects on deadline to get a paycheck. It's kinda win-win.....aside from the inactivity anyway.
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Please get me my shit I've ordered!

I'm just kidding! As long as I keep saying the supply chain people can't get me the supplies I've ordered, I don't have to complete projects on deadline to get a paycheck. It's kinda win-win.....aside from the inactivity anyway.
I see the beginnings of a partnership here...

Who am I kidding.... I'm not on the execution side anyway, you'll have to take that up with the distribution team.

I'm all about pie in the sky strategic bullshit. Where you get paid to fantasize and not actually do any work. And then at the end of the day you deliver some elaborate study recommending a sweeping overhaul which initially garners praise from the execs for "thinking boldly" and then gets swept under the rug and never implemented due to overarching bureaucracy.

I'm just milking the cow till early retirement.... just 20 years to go!
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I see the beginnings of a partnership here...

Who am I kidding.... I'm not on the execution side anyway, you'll have to take that up with the distribution team.

I'm all about pie in the sky strategic bullshit. Where you get paid to fantasize and not actually do any work. And then at the end of the day you deliver some elaborate study recommending a sweeping overhaul which initially garners praise from the execs for "thinking boldly" and then gets swept under the rug and never implemented due to overarching bureaucracy.

I'm just milking the cow till early retirement.... just 20 years to go!
Our jobs seem eerily similar. About 60% of the items I bring to discussion actually make a CapEx budget list. About 30% of those projects make it to completion. I jokingly make comments about how I get paid to shit post on here.
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I jokingly make comments about how I get paid to shit post on here.
I remember going to work before there were distractions... How I survived that is beyond me. Makes me shudder thinking back...
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I remember going to work before there were distractions... How I survived that is beyond me. Makes me shudder thinking back...
Before the internet and jobs held without the use of a computer, we made our own distractions. Work seemed more enjoyable then somehow.
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How you know to pack it in and call it a day.
Can't help but think about that WKRP episode.
I had to Google this. I wasn't even alive yet lol.

You still make my teeth sweat, though.
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Before the internet and jobs held without the use of a computer, we made our own distractions. Work seemed more enjoyable then somehow.
That's true.... Although I'm a lot younger... Didn't enter the workforce till 2008. By then social media had ruined everything, but it was blocked at work. So nobody had any social skills anymore and also no access to social media at work. They were dark times.

Now I work exclusively from home and just generally avoid human interaction.

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Bah, we had nerf gun wars in the office when the supervisor wasn't looking and boy did he get hit in the back of the head quite a bit.

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I had to Google this. I wasn't even alive yet lol.

You still make my teeth sweat, though.
Not growing up with WKRP isn't that old - knowing that they were parodying the Hindenburg crash in that skit is what really earns you the AARP card.
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I had to Google this. I wasn't even alive yet lol.

You still make my teeth sweat, though.
You crack me up. Kiss ass

Now get off my lawn. You weren't born yet in 1978? Damn, I was in HS.
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