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      04-27-2021, 10:45 AM   #23
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Not sure why they wouldn’t offer the brakes and seats in their most focused sized model. Surely the seats make more sense in a compact coupe than a large saloon (M3)
Probably reserved for the CS or CSL. I would have really like the buckets in just the Competition though.
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My predictions:

- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4

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      04-27-2021, 11:14 AM   #26
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Not offering the carbon buckets in their sportiest car seems like a miss to me.
They will probably reserve them for a CS model at least.

If they want to recoup on the investment (Seats designed and built by BMW) they need to use them in the most models possible.
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      04-27-2021, 11:25 AM   #27
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ok the right car with a manual gerabox to buy to put in the garage "before it's too late" as electric cars are coming....
I also am planning on buying a manual to keep forever (or until they outlaw gasoline sales) but it won't be a dual purpose passenger car/performance car. It will be a Porsche with a roll cage lol.
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      04-27-2021, 11:34 AM   #28
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My predictions:

- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4

This is actually the ugliest render I have ever seen on these forums and that says something.
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      04-27-2021, 11:39 AM   #29
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      04-27-2021, 11:40 AM   #30
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This is actually the ugliest render I have ever seen on these forums and that says something.
Haha! Although it’s in keeping with many of the renders I’ve seen. Setting the expectations low, that way people aren’t disappointed when they see G87 revealed. Channeling my inner Peter La Fleur

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      04-27-2021, 11:51 AM   #31
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Wonder if there will ever be a new version of a DCT. Gonna miss the drama of those gear changes.
If you want drama, the SMG will give you drama all the time whether you like it or not
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      04-27-2021, 11:54 AM   #32
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Manual in all markets do you know please eg U.K. where the G80/2/3 is Auto only?

All in great news though, appreciate the update.
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      04-27-2021, 12:07 PM   #34
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My predictions:

- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4
Adaptive suspension would be nice.
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      04-27-2021, 12:17 PM   #35
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Please please please no bucktooth beaver grill
This should draw in some of the crowd who haven't warmed up to the G8x design
There's plenty of people that find the G8x too big or too heavy, so bmw doesnt need to differentiate via the grill. But who knows
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      04-27-2021, 12:33 PM   #36
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Not sure why they wouldn't offer the brakes and seats in their most focused sized model. Surely the seats make more sense in a compact coupe than a large saloon (M3)
I WANT to love those bucket seats.. beyond gorgeous... and too small.

15min test drive and they were already uncomfortable which broke my heart.
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      04-27-2021, 12:43 PM   #37
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Look forward to final reveal! Is production of the next gen M2 being moved to Mexico?
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Not offering the carbon buckets in their sportiest car seems like a miss to me. But the manual is what matters most!
Oh they will, on some other edition of the car. You can probably save a buck and buy some seats out of crashed g82.
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      04-27-2021, 12:52 PM   #39
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  • G87 M2 will be available with a manual and an automatic.
    Really too bad about the DCT but as long as it has the manual, i'm set.
  • Most options will be the same as G80/G82, and I don't see much of that decontenting that was done with the original F87 compared with F80/F82. Though ceramic brakes and bucket seats seem to be missing, all the drivetrain and suspension things are the same as G82, and even carbon roof will be an option.
    Love this, I always like the idea of having more options, the downside is cost of course. Hopefully, BMW can keep that in check.
  • The wheels will be 19" front and 20" rear, G87 specific design.
    I like that the G87 specific design, nice to have some different options, not just a smaller M3.
  • The first four months of its production will fall into the "M 50th anniversary" period so expect the initial run to become somewhat collectible.
    Hoping that doesn't mean that the first few months, the car has an ADM or anything.
  • And the new dashboard will be standard from day one.
    Don't really know how I feel about this, hoping that it is both very functional and looks good. The current setup is great, so simplicity is key in my book. I don't need the mess that's in the G8X or even Audi's Virtual Cockpit
Ideally, BMW wouldn't mess up the transmission & tune like the G8X and have the ZCP cars be all autos. And I would love to have the carbon buckets from the G8X and M5CS.
My perfect G87 would be, same weight, more power, more options, a HUD, and a manual. Done
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My predictions:

- Faster, a lot faster
- Way more capable
- Adaptive suspension available
- More insulated, comfortable, less “go-kart”
- Uglier than its predecessor, but more “traditional” looking than G22, G8X, or I4

People say g80 wants to turn in and handle better than the f80, I'm hoping that feeling comes over to the g87 and still feels kind of go-kart.
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Wonder if there will ever be a new version of a DCT. Gonna miss the drama of those gear changes.
DCT is gone, stop over thinking it.
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People say g80 wants to turn in and handle better than the f80, I'm hoping that feeling comes over to the g87 and still feels kind of go-kart.
Wider front tires + more factory camber + wider front track is what is going on with G80, so no doubt that will trickle down to G87. When I say go-kart I mean a combination of the 2 series wheel base + the “busy-ness” of the non-adaptive suspension. Both of those things make it feel like you’re on rails all the time in F87, but I think the common theme across the big 3 Germans is now to go even faster than before but feel like you’re more in control and less “on rails” experience. No doubt it will still be the go-kart relative to the rest of the range and other options on the market - but I expect that jumping from F87 to G87 will be similar to jumping from F80 to G80. More confident, less drama, and faster speeds.
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Ideally, BMW wouldn't mess up the transmission & tune like the G8X and have the ZCP cars be all autos. And I would love to have the carbon buckets from the G8X and M5CS.
My perfect G87 would be, same weight, more power, more options, a HUD, and a manual. Done
The G87 M2 is bigger so most likely will weigh more.
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No bucket seats or carbon ceramics as options? There is literally 0 reason why they would exclude these OPTIONAL items. Why does this feel like a repeat of the OG M2? I.e half arse it and then release the 'proper' version later. Fool me once...
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