[SCA]

Originally Posted by ABR

Yeh, like holiday or something.

Possibly the aluminum trim shortage.

[JBOO]

It must be nice to be able to cancel your order like that. I don't think it can be done here. I remember when I ordered my Mini, I wanted to cancel after the frustration of waiting 2 months longer than I had originally ben told. Turned out to be a awesome car and worth the wait, but had I been given the option to cancel, I would have never known.

[SpeedFreak!]

Originally Posted by SCA

Possibly the aluminum trim shortage.

There has been a very serious aluminum trim shortage... more then likely the cause of your delay and nothing more.

[silverado]

I bought my car back in May and Owners Circle STILL shows that it is being prep'd at the BMW center. I put no stock in the tracking system.

[davinet78]

innovations are happening every time it is never the right time to buy anything then.

[cntlaw]

Originally Posted by SCA

follow the link...half ways down.


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...?t=7200&page=2

SCA
You are driving a old 88' M3 and you drive a X5 tank.
I think your sense of modern sports cars are out date by now.
I don't think you should waste your money on a E90 330, 335, or M3. Buy a 1999 E46 M3 will be a good upgrade for you already.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by SpeedFreak!

There has been a very serious aluminum trim shortage... more then likely the cause of your delay and nothing more.

Thanks SpeedFreak! Possibly that was it, but you would think that when the car went into production that their supplier(s) would have had enough lead time to handle that matter appropriately.

[Nikki]

Why not lease then?

[SCA]

Originally Posted by cntlaw

SCA
You are driving a old 88' M3 and you drive a X5 tank.
I think your sense of modern sports cars are out date by now.

First...The E30 M3 won more races than any other BMW in racing history with 1400 plus wins under it's belt. My car is purely a garage queen with ultra low miles. There are many more specific details regarding my M3, but no need in sharing them here. I would not publicly disregard what is still known as the "real" M3. The E30 M3 is a cult car and it has a large following of loyal owners. The E30 M3 was limited to 5000 imported into the US for model years 1988-1991. To this very day it is still one of the most preferred cars for BMW CCA club racing.

Secondly, if you had read the entire thread, the X5 is on loan.

Lastly, I do not know how much you can consider a BMW a sports car. Luxury car more than sports car. It is sport orientned.

BTW, You could not give me an E46 M3 and if you did, I would turn around and sell it. The S54 is a nightmare.

[Jon_Hanson]

I just ordered my 330 yesterday. The salesman said something like that no production for the 3 series is going on in the factory for the month of November. It sounds like they are re-tooling but I don't know for sure. Could this be the cause of your delay?

[ABR]

Sure you M3 is a fine car, but --1988. It is last century car Don't became an old fart, who holds to artifacts of his youth to feel better about today.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by ABR

Sure you M3 is a fine car, but --1988. It is last century car Don't became an old fart, who holds to artifacts of his youth to feel better about today.

Let's see...well-kept E30 M3s will be bringing more money in the used market than an E90 is 5 years (including mine). Just a simple fact. Currently, low mileage, excellent condition E30 M3s are bringing $22-26k and prices continue to rise. Talk to me in five years...


BTW, at 34 I maybe old to you and some board others, but I am certainly not an old fart.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by Jon_Hanson

I just ordered my 330 yesterday. The salesman said something like that no production for the 3 series is going on in the factory for the month of November. It sounds like they are re-tooling but I don't know for sure. Could this be the cause of your delay?

You were given false info. Your dealer may have not been allocated any 3-Series for November production, but BMW is producing E90s this month. Several future E90 owners are waiting on E90s produced this month. Most of December BMW will be producing a low volume of vehicles and some dealers did not receive any December allocation. Only the first two weeks of Dec. will BMW be producing anything.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by Nikki

Why not lease then?

Not an option for me.

[SpeedFreak!]

Originally Posted by SCA

Thanks SpeedFreak! Possibly that was it, but you would think that when the car went into production that their supplier(s) would have had enough lead time to handle that matter appropriately.

You're absolutely right... we were (and still are) completely baffled by the entire ordeal.

[ABR]

Actually, I don't advise you to sell your M3. Keep it as vintage car.

What I'm trying to say, get a modern car for daily drives.

[SCA]

Originally Posted by ABR

Actually, I don't advise you to sell your M3. Keep it as vintage car.

What I'm trying to say, get a modern car for daily drives.

Gotcha...

[SCA]

Vehicle is waiting to be transported.


On another note, I must give a final answer regarding canceling the order by mid-week.

[Meatnog]

I wanna make sure I'm getting this right:

1) You have seen some odd data as it relates to dates.

2) You have seen a rumor about a future release of a BMW that you might like more than the current car, if it ever comes to fruition.

3) You're getting impatient about waiting.

And these somehow lead to 'my car might be a lemon and BMW is screwing me'?

No offense, but this is what is known in the management/decision making world as 'cognitive dissonance'. In other words, your reasons and reasoning are not meshing up. You're trying to find a reason to fulfil a deeper desire, in this case I'm guessing #2 above.

If you don't need the car, would rather wait until that next model, then just cancel it, appologize to the dealership and let them know they can contact you as soon as the new models come out and you'll buy them.

But don't try to wrap it up in a cloak of BMW trying to screw you, or pass you off a lemon when you have absolutely, positively no evidence of any of that. Hell, my car stayed at the prep center for TWO WEEKS before it was shipped out via train and truck to me. My dealership said that sometimes the prep center just gets overloaded due to high volume, employee issues (sickness, vacation, etc...) and holidays/inspections.

[LEDZEP]

cognitive dissonance.... haven't heard that term in awhile! Nail.... head.... it's a hit!

[SCA]

Originally Posted by Meatnog

I wanna make sure I'm getting this right:

1) You have seen some odd data as it relates to dates.

2) You have seen a rumor about a future release of a BMW that you might like more than the current car, if it ever comes to fruition.

3) You're getting impatient about waiting.

And these somehow lead to 'my car might be a lemon and BMW is screwing me'?

No offense, but this is what is known in the management/decision making world as 'cognitive dissonance'. In other words, your reasons and reasoning are not meshing up. You're trying to find a reason to fulfil a deeper desire, in this case I'm guessing #2 above.

If you don't need the car, would rather wait until that next model, then just cancel it, appologize to the dealership and let them know they can contact you as soon as the new models come out and you'll buy them.

But don't try to wrap it up in a cloak of BMW trying to screw you, or pass you off a lemon when you have absolutely, positively no evidence of any of that. Hell, my car stayed at the prep center for TWO WEEKS before it was shipped out via train and truck to me. My dealership said that sometimes the prep center just gets overloaded due to high volume, employee issues (sickness, vacation, etc...) and holidays/inspections.

Thanks for the words of wisdom, but I am certainly not impatient. I really did not want the car to be built until then end of November, BMW AG bumped it up by 4 weeks.

If you had read this entire thread, I stated that I do not believe that BMW is trying to screw me. That is just not it. In fact, I stated that I understand BMW is trying to stay competitive against their competition.

[BrunoT]

I'd decide based on factors such as "do I need a new vehicle now or not?" If not, waiting wouldn't hurt. But BMW's have usually resold very well and when I was hunting for used 3's I didn't see much difference in the 323i vs 325i. Why? Because the performance wasn't that much different.

Timing also matters. If a vehicle was scheduled to be delivered before a new model year came out, that's a big difference. But if you were looking at delivery 9 months before new models arrived or something like that, well, you either want a new car or you don't. There will always be something newer and better around the bend.

As long as the cars perform well (and even the 325i does now) I don't see it being a huge factor at resale time if a new version comes out with slightly better performance. I do, however, see it being a huge factor in some egos. Is that the case here?

Also keep in mind that with improvements and upgrades to the 3 series line, you'll also see price increases. And since German manufacturers always charge exhorbitant premiums for better engines, I'd expect the price increase to outpace the performance increases, and so there goes the resale argument. Pay more, sell for more, it's a wash.

Some people like the car search and anticipation more than the actual delivery and use. My father is like that. They spend months researching and waiting to get just what they want. Then when it arrives the new wears off soon and they start thinking of reasons why they need the newer better version. One year into the design cycle, I doubt BMW is making any changes that most people can even notice in the driving experience, which is really all it's about. Winning drag races by a 1/2 car length with a newer model....yawn.