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What a travesty. Would definitely just take the comparable Mini or Golf over this.
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05-28-2019, 03:17 PM | #156 |
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Haldex?
Not for a BMW price. Thats where BMW lower their image. Before you knew you buy a true xDrive with RWD bias. Now, is just a Haldex. Plenty of good cars out there for less. The new 1 series is a fail. NO, thank you. |
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05-28-2019, 03:32 PM | #158 |
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I guess Veloster N would be a better deal and it comes ready for the track.
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05-28-2019, 03:32 PM | #159 |
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I would buy this over any new MINI if available in the US. But do prefer the previous RWD version for looks and driving dynamics.
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05-28-2019, 04:18 PM | #160 |
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Haldex?
Isn't that what Volvo and VW use? ![]() |
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05-28-2019, 04:32 PM | #161 |
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So it’s no stunner but it’s way better looking than the hideous Mk1 & Mk2 cars!!
So it’s fwd... it’s a family hatchback!! I’ve had some great driving fwd cars and you really shouldn’t be drifting round corners on public roads anyways! If you want a track car get a Cayman or a 2 series!! |
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05-28-2019, 05:15 PM | #162 |
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How do you know it’s a fail? What good cars are there for less? You got to drive it before the press?
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I do find it funny that the GTI/Golf R beat both generations of rwd 1er and you guys are crying about it losing rwd. I realize we're a US driven forum, but surely some of you have driven the 1er on vacation? Or even a non M 1 series or 2 series?
I've driven both generations a few times and we owned a 135i coupe. Understeering, harsh ride without commiserate handling prowess, poor packaging, cramped interiors. There's really nothing to lose with this switch. Sure, it could/should be marketed as a Mini, but aside from that, it's likely going to be a better car than the previous versions. |
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I thought it was actually, selective memory.
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Wow the F30 was that bad?
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Imagine how awesome the car's balance would have been with the current 4 cylinder turbo and RWD. I've always found AWD ridiculous in small hot hatches as they add appreciable weight. This is just a bloated Countryman with BMW badge.
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M135i's fun factor alone won Chris Harris over arguably better looking and tech of RS3 despite its ugly face.
Who in the right mind would buy this over even S3 or A35? I am almost certain it won't be offered in MT either.
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