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I have also measured the frequency response in the car (that is how I established the equalizer settings). There is bass in the car. But as others have said, at low volumes, you won't feel the bass as much. At higher volumes, better source, and engine off, the system measures correctly. But it is definitely trying to be more audiophile (meaning not boosted bass).
I also agree about the break in time. I am usually not one to believe in break in for speakers but for some reason this car was the exception. At the start it sounded really bright, but after it settled, it sounded much better. |
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I was online looking at part numbers and such, and found that the part number for the subs is the same for the F10 M5, F90 M5, 550, 750, etc etc. I am not sure if this is the base stereo or the SAME bass for ALL of them???
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12-09-2019, 12:07 PM | #26 |
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I just set the B&W treble to the max setting and bass slightly above mid level.....and it sounds great....
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12-09-2019, 04:11 PM | #29 |
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Yes B&W ..this is the EQ setting I use in most cars.........the B&W equalizer detailed settings I use is a "U" shaped curve with treble at max and bass again slightly above mid level....the bottom of U curve will also be mid point
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All 3 cars had the fake exhaust sound coded off. I can't stand it, especially on the F90 where the "Hum" comes from the front when exhaust noise should be coming from the rear
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12-09-2019, 06:19 PM | #33 |
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12-10-2019, 08:18 AM | #34 |
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Theres a button to turn the fake exhaust sound on and off depending on mood....no need to code it off.....on the F90 M5 Competition it actually sounds good
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12-10-2019, 10:19 AM | #35 |
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Tagging you again to get your EQ settings...snap a pic when you can.
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12-10-2019, 12:20 PM | #36 |
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Will this improve bass performance? I have to say the midtones in most of the songs I listen to are improved but the bass is completely lacking. Not entirely sure if it is due to the amazing sound deadening (base M5) or just crap tuning. I do know that my brother's '15 C300 stereo knocks the socks off mine.
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I don't think this system is as lousy as it has been made to appear here but it does require that you tune the settings to achieve the best sound possible for the genre of music you most listen to. If more bass is what you seek play with the lows until there's enough in place. This may entail you play with the mids and highs as well.
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Evey set of speakers is slightly different too so this might not sound good on yours, it's hard to say. 500Hz +2 1kHz +2 2kHz +1 Treble +3 Bass +4
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I am a car audiophile and sound quality competition is one of my hobbies. I can tell you definitively that all factory car audio is terrible. Period. It doesn't matter of it's a $9000 Burmester upgrade on a $200,000 Mercedes, the system is garbage.
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What button? That's not what the exhaust button with the green light does if that's what you mean, if it does turn off the ASD it's doing a lot more than that because it also quiets the exhaust system itself, no more pops and bangs with the green light off on the button.
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I agree the Bowers and Wilkins system is a huge disappointment compared to the previous B & O in the F10 M5. I consider myself an audiophile, and have a high end system at home which has no tone controls at all. Since I play the car audio more, I really miss the B & O in the F10 M5. I would describe it as the Bowers sounds like it has much smaller speakers with a small sub and with the B & O you hear a much "fuller" sound. The Bowers tends to distort bass when a Bass player is the focus on most EQ settings. If you play the same song on the B & O it doesn't.
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