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      07-17-2019, 02:48 PM   #727
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I actually think it's looking pretty good exterior wise
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Im curious to see what the rear legroom situation will be like.
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Im curious to see what the rear legroom situation will be like.
The F40 compared to the F20:

rear legroom has increased by 33 mm and headroom by 19 mm
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      07-17-2019, 06:17 PM   #731
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At least this GC version might solve the weird scrunched up rear end the 2 has. Looks promising.
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not gonna read all the comments, but i assume 99% of them are asking "why this"?
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not gonna read all the comments, but i assume 99% of them are asking "why this"?
Im also curious as to BMWs thought process regarding the Gran Coupe lineup. Seems counterintuitive to release 4-door versions of 2-door Series platforms when they already have a 4-door Series lineup.
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not gonna read all the comments, but i assume 99% of them are asking "why this"?
I’m also curious as to BMW’s thought process regarding the “Gran Coupe” lineup. Seems counterintuitive to release 4-door versions of 2-door Series platforms when they already have a 4-door Series lineup.
At least with the 4 series gran coupe, it looks and feels different to drive. The driving position is better, and it corners flatter, with less body roll (even with base suspension). It's probably due to the wider stance and lower center of gravity relative to the f30 s series.
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      07-17-2019, 09:18 PM   #735
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Well G20 3 series is almost E39 5 series big, so a smaller 4 door doesn't sound crazy
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      07-17-2019, 10:08 PM   #736
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What's wrong with a 400hp (tuned) AWD 2GC? Not seeing the downfall here......

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      07-17-2019, 10:34 PM   #737
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What's wrong with a 400hp (tuned) AWD 2GC? Not seeing the downfall here......
Keep in mind that's not the same as a rwd based xDrive car. Here's a review of the dynamically similar M135i:

https://www.motor1.com/reviews/36013...ve-review/amp/
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not gonna read all the comments, but i assume 99% of them are asking "why this"?
I’m also curious as to BMW’s thought process regarding the “Gran Coupe” lineup. Seems counterintuitive to release 4-door versions of 2-door Series platforms when they already have a 4-door Series lineup.
I've been asking myself this question ever since the GC phenomenon began. I can somewhat see a purpose for the 6GC, but a 4GC or 2GC?!?!
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not gonna read all the comments, but i assume 99% of them are asking "why this"?
I'm also curious as to BMW's thought process regarding the "Gran Coupe" lineup. Seems counterintuitive to release 4-door versions of 2-door Series platforms when they already have a 4-door Series lineup.
I've been asking myself this question ever since the GC phenomenon began. I can somewhat see a purpose for the 6GC, but a 4GC or 2GC?!?!
The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
Agree with that part.

I'd still prefer the RS3 or the CLA45 over this underpowered slug from Munich.
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
Agree with that part.

I'd still prefer the RS3 or the CLA45 over this underpowered slug from Munich.
To be fair, the M235i GC would be more of a comparable product to the CLA35 and S3. It will be interesting to see if BMW responds to the full AMG and RS products.
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
Agree with that part.

I'd still prefer the RS3 or the CLA45 over this underpowered slug from Munich.
To be fair, the M235i GC would be more of a comparable product to the CLA35 and S3. It will be interesting to see if BMW responds to the full AMG and RS products.
BMW will not make anything even come close to either one of those cars
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
Agree with that part.

I'd still prefer the RS3 or the CLA45 over this underpowered slug from Munich.
To be fair, the M235i GC would be more of a comparable product to the CLA35 and S3. It will be interesting to see if BMW responds to the full AMG and RS products.
My point is nothing BMW will make will even come close to either one of those cars.
I mean, we can hope they can, right? Their freakin' headquarters are a four cylinder. Maybe just dust off an S14 and add a snail?
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The 4er GC is a better looking car then the 3er F30 IMHO.

Not everyone wants to drive a damn boat.

So enter the 2er GC.
I agree IF it is RWD
Agree with that part.

I'd still prefer the RS3 or the CLA45 over this underpowered slug from Munich.
To be fair, the M235i GC would be more of a comparable product to the CLA35 and S3. It will be interesting to see if BMW responds to the full AMG and RS products.
My point is nothing BMW will make will even come close to either one of those cars.
I mean, we can hope they can, right? Their freakin' headquarters are a four cylinder.

Maybe just dust off an S14 and add a snail?
Nope they turned that into four batteries.
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Well G20 3 series is almost E39 5 series big, so a smaller 4 door doesn't sound crazy
Is it really THAT big? Holy crap!
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Well G20 3 series is almost E39 5 series big, so a smaller 4 door doesn't sound crazy
Is it really THAT big? Holy crap!
It's still about 2.6 inches shorter. But it's actually wider by an inch and taller by a smidge.

But yes, it's a big sucker.

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