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28i = Base FWD 4-cyl (X1, X2, 1, FWD 2) 30i = Base RWD 4-cyl (X3, X4, RWD 2, 3, 4, 5) 35i = Upgraded FWD 4-cyl (X1, X2, 1, FWD 2) 40i = Upgraded RWD 4-cyl (X3, X4, RWD 2, 3, 4, 5), ALSO Base RWD 4-cyl (X5, X6, X7, 7, 8) 50i = V8 (X5, X6, X7, 5, 7, 8) So basically each series has 2 engine options, the base and the upgrade (I'm not counting M cars here for obvious reasons). The only current exception seems to be the 5 series with 530i, 540i, and M550i engine options.
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10-15-2019, 12:56 PM | #115 |
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I think it's way past the time we as a BMW community understand that BMW is not out here trying to make newer, better M bred cars with motorsports heritage only or anymore. They are a car manufacturer first, car enthusiast definitely second.
With that said, there's a reason for all these diluted cars - because they sell... for example, my wife's BMW x1 was purchased for 36k OTD. is it a great BMW? does it follow my E46 non m which was purchased for 42k OTD in 2000? Or does it seem similar to my E60 550i which had an MSRP of over 72k new in 2008? How about compared to my F82 m4, which cost exactly double or more? HELL No. But it sure seemed like a better car than Lexus NX, Subaru Forester Sport, Toyota RAV 4 Limited, Honda CRV.. etc etc These introductory cars are great for what they are - commuters, groceries, baby transporters. They are still above and beyond the competition if optioned low. Once you start selecting all the options, adding bigger engines, AWD, Sport package bumpers, LED lights etc etc etc, then it becomes not worth it. But a bare bone optioned BMW will compete and sell well - just look at the numbers of these budget models being introduced by all luxury makers now. TL: DR These new econobox BMWs are just what BMW ordered, since consumers are eating them up |
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10-15-2019, 12:59 PM | #119 |
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I'll only say positives. Those seats look bad ass. I even like the blue (I think it's lighting) on the interior doors. The rear tail lights are ok.
My gripe with the 2 series, which I have, is that it weighs as much as an 4 series. More specifically the M2 and M4. Less than 100 lbs of a difference. This car looks heavy. |
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10-15-2019, 01:00 PM | #120 | |
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And BMW knows this.
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10-15-2019, 01:02 PM | #123 | |
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28i - B48A20M1 M35l - B48A20T1 30i - B48B20O1 40i - B48B30M1 M40i - B48B30O1 50i - N63B44M3 M50i - N63B44T3 60i - N74B66TU2 The X5 and X7 also have three engines available (40i, 50i, M50i). |
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10-15-2019, 01:06 PM | #126 |
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They've said definitely no. Can't fit an I6 in it. The B48 is the highest output 4 that BMW have - which put out a respectable 300 HP - but as has been mentioned in this thread, cars with the B48 are designated Mx35i.
I doubt you'll see any of the FWD variants ever badged as a M car. |
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10-15-2019, 01:07 PM | #127 |
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MB CLA and A Class sedans Audi A3 sedans To ignore this new segment is to leave money on the table. This was an obvious move for BMW. Considering that direct competition, they have done well with this entry. I also like it aesthetically and would take it over either of those other two brand entries if I was an intender for an entry level premium brand 4 door. It is not intended to compare to the 3 Series...incremental sales (the profitable ones) come from taking from other brands' competitive models; substitutional sales come from within the showroom, and in this case the likely lower margin means BMW doesn't want anyone who likes the 3 Series to substitute this instead. This is an aspirational/first time BMW or additional car in a multi-car family. Wait for the road tests to start...it will be that trio of brands.
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This car sucks on every level and there's not a single redeeming quality.
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damn these cars get more JDM by the minute. these looks like riced out mazada 3s with grills.
the f30 looked bad in my opinion but never ricey or busy. alas this is what sells nowadays. tells alexa to change your led light bulbs in your apartment and boom you got swag lmao. moreover that side profile is so generic. |
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10-15-2019, 01:24 PM | #131 |
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Those seats are probably going to get carried over to the new 4er.
I like the front bumper, but the shape of the car and the headlights looks way too dorky. |
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