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      12-09-2021, 02:59 AM   #111
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^ What are you six hours behind that's 2am there and still up, rather you than me heheh
Something like that, but I prefer to work at night, it is more peaceful.
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I'll sent you MAX's damaged diffuser ASAP ! With the efficiency loss !
Wait ...What's your address ? At least do you have one ?

And I never saw 'once a solid concrete evidence from your side ..Just BS talk .
As I said you sound like an elephant in a china shop !

or the proverbial bull in china shop
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Yeah right Masi warning Ham and Max and giving Max the penalties as you've demonstrated.
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Maybe a potential gamechanger:
Abu Dabi apparently has the same sharp kerbs as Qatar:
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/10086...-are-back.html

So Pirelli declared after the race in Qatar that the many tyre blowouts were caused by the sharp kerbs on the losail circuit.

So the urge for fast laptimes might be part of a gamble: do I take the kerb or not?
Might give an interesting spin on the championchip
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You said Mercedes had "jet speed" and were so much faster than everyone else. I posted the F1 speed trap tables completely debunking this. If that's not a good enough metric to get top speeds I don't know what is, but it beats watching the tv and "seeing" the top speeds with your eyes.


Next Rick accused Mercedes and the FIA of colluding to make the new rules benefit then for engine penalties. I cited the FIA sporting directives from 2017 and 2018 showing this was not a recent rule change. I also cited the source showing engine failures per team in 2017 before the new updated engine replacement grid penalty rules. This showed the Honda engine was the one that failed the most at nearly twice the rate of Mercedes. So if anything the rule changes were made to benefit Honda.


None of you guys provided any solid proof to back your statements up.
So, how is it possible that the Merc's are faster without DRS than the other cars with DRS ?
Because the Mercedes is too slow ?

Same mindblowing situation at Jeddah , BOT overtook a McLaren without DRS while the McLaren was running with DRS ...

Negative , I dind't said that Mercedes had Jet-Speed .
I said that the Merc's run in *Warp-Speed .

And of course the Ferrari's ran with the Jet-Mode with the strawberry smell...
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      12-09-2021, 05:27 AM   #116
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Interesting to see Masi has drawn attention to points being docked in his race notes - clearly they are keen for it to be decided fairly and maybe this changes some behaviours…

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/s...380346886?s=21
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So, how is it possible that the Merc's are faster without DRS than the other cars with DRS ?
Because the Mercedes is too slow ?

Same mindblowing situation at Jeddah , BOT overtook a McLaren without DRS while the McLaren was running with DRS ...

Negative , I dind't said that Mercedes had Jet-Speed .
I said that the Merc's run in *Warp-Speed .

And of course the Ferrari's ran with the Jet-Mode with the strawberry smell...
Drag levels, level of downforce which inspires the ability to brake later because a higher cornering speed is attainable. Post the video of this overtake, because if it is right before a corner then it is clearly the mercedes' superior cornering ability. Also how is bottas within passing range and not have DRS. Again you need to provide a video to show case this scenario, otherwise it could simply be made up.


Dont forget straight line speed isn't everything, cornering speed is vital as well.
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Interesting to see Masi has drawn attention to points being docked in his race notes - clearly they are keen for it to be decided fairly and maybe this changes some behaviours…

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/s...380346886?s=21
Fairly you say that's a laugh a minute, they'll twist it to side with Ham you know it and I know it, more quicker illegal car than anyone and a supporting body behind him since '14.

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Interesting to see Masi has drawn attention to points being docked in his race notes - clearly they are keen for it to be decided fairly and maybe this changes some behaviours…

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/s...380346886?s=21
That's a clear warning for Max, but also Lewis should heed that reminder:



2019 (about the decisive Senna - Prost crashes in Suzuka back in 1989 and 1990): "Why not ?"



Martin Brundle on Senna's dive bombing:

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Punctures, would you bet on one stop with this cheese grader.

A surprise awaits the teams and Pirelli in Abu Dhabi. Following the renovations at Yas Marina, Losail-like kerbs were used. As Pirelli was not warned about this, there is a new uncertainty about the weekend.
Why do tracks make these kind of curbs like man that looks like it will eat up the tires and break front wings. Same thing with sausage curbs.
Because they intend for the drivers to stay within the confines of the actual track. I vote to bring back gravel traps and get rid of all the ridiculous run offs and extra paved surfaces!
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I am so freaking excited for this weekend. Going in to the finale with the driver's title tied on points is just insane.

Not only has this entire season been absurdly entertaining, but we get to look forward to reliving it in a few months via Netflix. Say what you will about the narratives they weave, but it's some all-time-great streaming in my book.
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Interesting to see Masi has drawn attention to points being docked in his race notes - clearly they are keen for it to be decided fairly and maybe this changes some behaviours…

https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/s...380346886?s=21
Too late for that now, toothpaste is out of the tube.

Masi is in desperate need of grid respect, this isn’t gonna make it better, maybe worse.
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Masi is out of his depth.
When you start negotiating with team's over the radio, you've lost any respect the teams may have had for you, as well as control of your position.
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So, how is it possible that the Merc's are faster without DRS than the other cars with DRS ?
Because the Mercedes is too slow ?

Same mindblowing situation at Jeddah , BOT overtook a McLaren without DRS while the McLaren was running with DRS ...

Negative , I dind't said that Mercedes had Jet-Speed .
I said that the Merc's run in *Warp-Speed .

And of course the Ferrari's ran with the Jet-Mode with the strawberry smell...
Look who's going to be steward at AD my friend, this Ham supporter is responsible for giving Max quite a few penalties over the years.
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I imagine the FIA will have all it's VER hating stewards in place this weekend. It's too important for hammy to get 8 and displace MSC.
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Masi is out of his depth.
When you start negotiating with team's over the radio, you've lost any respect the teams may have had for you, as well as control of your position.
Are you in the military by chance?

That's not usually how civilian life works. Negotiation and compromise is the nature of society, and sometimes all you need is to mediate things before they go to a judge (who, even then, will mediate and negotiate).

Stewards are last resort, and if a solution that pleases everyone can be found (like they did) beforehand, it keeps in racing, as opposed to litigation.

Not sure if you're referring to a specific situation that is not applicable. are you? Which one specifically?
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Are you in the military by chance?

That's not usually how civilian life works. Negotiation and compromise is the nature of society, and sometimes all you need is to mediate things before they go to a judge (who, even then, will mediate and negotiate).

Stewards are last resort, and if a solution that pleases everyone can be found (like they did) beforehand, it keeps in racing, as opposed to litigation.

Not sure if you're referring to a specific situation that is not applicable. are you? Which one specifically?
I think the problem was not what Masi said but how he said it/present it.

He made it sound like a flea market bargaining. Which it wasn't.

IMHO, he should state clearly FIA's position about Max gaining a lasting advantage off track, and this is what FIA recommends...... Otherwise FIA race control will refer the incident to the race stewards. **Period**

The tone and presentation just doesn't bode confidence or in control. Definitely doesn't sound good to the public.
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OK Mate , once again you need help as usual ..
I don't see anything stating the claimed 40% from your original post.
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Are you in the military by chance?

That's not usually how civilian life works. Negotiation and compromise is the nature of society, and sometimes all you need is to mediate things before they go to a judge (who, even then, will mediate and negotiate).

Stewards are last resort, and if a solution that pleases everyone can be found (like they did) beforehand, it keeps in racing, as opposed to litigation.

Not sure if you're referring to a specific situation that is not applicable. are you? Which one specifically?
I think the problem was not what Masi said but how he said it/present it.

He made it sound like a flea market bargaining. Which it wasn't.

IMHO, he should state clearly FIA's position about Max gaining a lasting advantage off track, and this is what FIA recommends...... Otherwise FIA race control will refer the incident to the race stewards. **Period**

The tone and presentation just doesn't bode confidence or in control. Definitely doesn't sound good to the public.
He's not there to please the public. We eavesdrop in their conversations. They all know what's being discussed and why.
It didn't even take a full minute for Horner to come back and accept the offer of remediation.

That only happened because there was a red flag involved.
If cars were on track, they'd be told to reverse positions or be referred to stewards.

That's how it went, and no complaints from either side. All good.
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I think the problem was not what Masi said but how he said it/present it.

He made it sound like a flea market bargaining. Which it wasn't.

IMHO, he should state clearly FIA's position about Max gaining a lasting advantage off track, and this is what FIA recommends...... Otherwise FIA race control will refer the incident to the race stewards. **Period**

The tone and presentation just doesn't bode confidence or in control. Definitely doesn't sound good to the public.
I agree.
Masi also didn't have the situation properly sorted out.
He completly missed the fact that Ocon was in the mix as well.
RB had to ask him about Ocon's position.
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