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Noelle Performance Programming is now available For Your F87 M2 N55 at HP Autosport
Noelle's High-Performance Software was developed in Germany over the past 3 years by Noelle and their partners in Germany and has been officially released for the US Market. Noelle's competitors can only offer Tuning Boxes also known as piggy backs for all new BMW’s. These tuning boxes falsify information that is being sent to the engine control unit and can cause running issues, false check engine lights and an array of other issues. Noelle's software replaces the operating system in the engine control unit and functions exactly like the factory software, eliminating all of the problems associated with tuning boxes.
Noelle Performance programming is only available at select programming facilities installed by independent BMW professionals. Another benefit of Noelle's software is the modification/removal of the top speed limiter allowing you to experience the full potential of your BMW* as well as maintain your factory BMW warranty. *Noelle Performance recommends following all posted speed limits on public roads! Top speed driving should ONLY be done on race tracks and only by experienced drivers with the proper training. N55B3OTO Engine 370 Stock HP 440 Tuned HP 443 Tuned Torque |
11-13-2019, 02:31 AM | #2 |
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Thank you for sharing. I have a few questions.
Is pricing available? What supporting mods are required (larger ic, other cooling upgrades etc.) Was testing on race tracks conducted? I assume the ECU has to either be removed and shipped for tuning, or you have to bring the car, right? Or can the ECU be tuned by the end user with a hand held OBD tuner? What is the maximum boost level? Is upgrading the turbine required for endurance? Thanks! Last edited by 5.M0NSTER; 11-13-2019 at 02:38 AM.. |
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11-13-2019, 03:30 AM | #3 |
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As far as I am aware, if you or anybody else removes your top speed limiter, your engine warranties are in fact voided. I specifically asked my BMW SA this question. User beware! And, BMW can see engine tunes and will negate your engine warranty if they see those as well. They might even void your factory transmission warranty. And I am almost positive this particular tune will void your factory engine warranty at the very least. Just be very careful with this, you could find yourself with no factory warranty very quickly.
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11-13-2019, 11:23 AM | #5 |
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Will the SA tell you before he flags your car?
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The programming is done on a dyno with matching programming for the trans, diff, and ABS/DSC. Noelle Performance Programming can only be performed at its authorized dealers with your vehicle present. The boost level settings are confidential and not disclosed by Noelle. No, you do not have to upgrade the turbo for this programming. |
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It is good to know that if something breaks because of the tune, it is covered by the tuner's warranty. However, according to the SA I spoke with, any evidence of a tune and higher boost levels, etc. discovered by BMW can void your factory warranty for the future. So even if the tuner can cover the damages related to the tune, your remaining factory warranty for everything else could be voided. I think only a small percentage of people have to deal with issues if the tune is decent, but just wanted to point out that there are risks involved, even if the tuner offers its own warranty. Also, it is interesting that they want us to change the oil and filter every 5k miles on a tuned car. That will increase the cost of living with the car. |
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Of course, depending on the dealer/SA/DM, they could trace anything back to anything. It's one of the reasons I'm waiting until my factory warranty runs out before I modify the car. |
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Sure, but what if BMW negated your warranty for these mods/tune, and you need to use your factory warranty to cover something unrelated to the tune? Will Noelle programming make up for the factory warranty that was negated by BMW and cover the unrelated (to the tune) repairs? Effectively making up for the negated warranty in its entirety?
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That's not what the SA told me. They can't void a little portion of the warranty. That would just make it a nightmare to determine what to cover/what not to cover.
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They're different than most manufacturers then. The automobile franchise (non BMW) that I work for will restrict certain areas of the vehicle. They'll restrict labor ops for certain parts of the vehicle like driveline, engine electrical etc. the only time they'll restrict the entire vehicle if if it's an insurance total. When you write a vehicle up and pull the warranty report it will show if any part of the vehicle is restricted. It's pretty easy actually.
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No I know that, what I meant is like if it was an engine issue unrelated to the tune. Or a transmission issue suspected to be related to the tune? What then? It seems unlikely that BMW would give us a partial engine warranty to cover engine issues unrelated to the tune OR that they would cover a non engine part (transmission) potentially damaged by the tune. One way or the other, it seems that if you have an engine tune and BMW sees it (and they more than likely will if they diagnose it), some or all of your engine/driveline/drivetrain warranty will be voided and nothing good will come of that.
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