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      02-19-2020, 11:02 AM   #45
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Sutcliffe said it best..."your reputation is going down the drain...I don't say that lightly."
He said he liked the digital dials though. How can anyone like that crap is beyond me.
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      02-19-2020, 11:11 AM   #46
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      02-19-2020, 11:43 AM   #47
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Jeez. Why is BMW putting 4 doors on EVERYTHING!!!!
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      02-19-2020, 12:03 PM   #48
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While it's not the right car for me, I think it will sell well. I have 2 female coworkers that drive CLAs and they both said they'd consider this when their lease expires.
They only own a CLA because it is affordable and has that badge. Face it, they would buy a Camry if it had a Mercedes or BMW badge on it.
Completely agree. That's why I believe this car will be a success. It lowers the cost of admission to a BMW, just as the CLA does for M-B.

Choosing a brand/product for the message it portrays isn't unique to vehicles. These coworkers also have LV handbags and I don't think it's because they're superior tools to hold their stuff.
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Jeez. Why is BMW putting 4 doors on EVERYTHING!!!!
Simple; 4-door vehicles sell better.
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This is the worst looking BMW ever made. Change my mind.
Until you see the new M3/M4
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      02-19-2020, 01:30 PM   #51
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No issues with this car whatsoever. Is it for me? No. But I don't feel like every car BMW releases has to be intended for me or enthusiasts. As long as they have at least one car for me that all that matters.

If Audi and Mercedes is making money, why can't BMW?
Exactly. I think the 8 series is a giant pig of a car, and all SAV are pointless, does not mean there is not a market for them.
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Front and interior are very cool
Engine sounds like a worthwhile 4 banger

Rear is a bit suv like. Similar to x4/6 design

Cool little car for sure
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      02-19-2020, 02:01 PM   #53
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Front and interior are very cool
Engine sounds like a worthwhile 4 banger

Rear is a bit suv like. Similar to x4/6 design

Cool little car for sure
I'm test driving one tomorrow for GF, will report back. Her car desires are nothing like mine - AWD, 4 doors, easy to use navigation / tech, safe and modern, warranty with no surprises, must be red. She couldn't care less about driving dynamics, steering feedback, FWD architecture, anything that would be a non-starter for me. Money isn't the main driver here everything else we are looking at is $10k more but the new 3-series is bigger than her F30 and there's not a ton out there around $50k that's all that interesting. It makes zero sense to step up to something like an S5 sportback or 440 GC for a driver like her, complete waste of money.
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We got our first 228i in at our store and conveniently one of our internet girls drives a corolla and happened to park near the 2. Very similar cars from the side profile.
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      02-19-2020, 03:25 PM   #55
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Just drove the M235. Me likes!
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      02-19-2020, 03:53 PM   #56
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Just drove the M235. Me likes!
You work at a bmw dealership right? . Grain of salt might be needed lol.
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BMW should put out a contract their photographers. The pictures at Car and Driver are attributed to BMW and make the car look like it was beaten with the ugly stick then set on fire. The photos make the rear look like it is stuck way up in the air like those hideous US spec Ford Fiestas. Then you see a proper side view and find out it's not the case. WTF?

Oh, and what's the deal with supplying the "generic Euro 4-door" black interior pictures to launch your new vehicle. Boooring! If I get a 228i as a loaner soon I'll report back, but right now I agree with others, it looks a lot like a 1998 Dodge Neon with a BMW nose and 2010 Dodge Dart rear.
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BMW should put out a contract their photographers. The pictures at Car and Driver are attributed to BMW and make the car look like it was beaten with the ugly stick then set on fire. The photos make the rear look like it is stuck way up in the air like those hideous US spec Ford Fiestas. Then you see a proper side view and find out it's not the case. WTF?

Oh, and what's the deal with supplying the "generic Euro 4-door" black interior pictures to launch your new vehicle. Boooring! If I get a 228i as a loaner soon I'll report back, but right now I agree with others, it looks a lot like a 1998 Dodge Neon with a BMW nose and 2010 Dodge Dart rear.
Trust me the photos aren't the problem, it was born ugly
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The hood line!!

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      02-19-2020, 04:38 PM   #60
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Looks wise, I actually like the front, rear is a little weird, reminds me of a x6 at times, i love the interior especially in res with those bucket seats.

My biggest problem is why the hell did bmw fuck around with the hofmeister kink!!!!!!! Side profile is awful! Nothing about it looks bmw! I think it would look way better if they just gave it a proper bmw hofmeister kink
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The 2 series GC is an anomaly in BMW ecosystem. The only reason it was built is to attract other lower tier buyers to BMW brand.
Yet the future of Corolla-esq vehicle at a much higher price is cloudy. Time will tell if this car will succeed.
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      02-20-2020, 12:05 AM   #62
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This is the worst looking BMW ever made. Change my mind.
No doubt this 2 is fugly, but a few others that immediately come to mind include the 3 and 5 series GT and the Bangle Butt 7 series.
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      02-20-2020, 06:04 AM   #63
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No doubt this 2 is fugly, but a few others that immediately come to mind include the 3 and 5 series GT and the Bangle Butt 7 series.
I was thinking '2002 E46 compact' but you guys overeas probably didn't recieve that punishment
then again it was available with I6/RWD/MT...
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are people actually using their own eyes and own money to buy one of these HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Unfortunately, it will probably sell. Younger (or less financially well off), non-enthusiasts looking for that premium badge will go for it. I hope I'm wrong. And no doubt, there will be an M version at some point.
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That thing is ugly af
Looks like kia...
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That thing is ugly af
Looks like kia...
And that's being generous.
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