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      03-20-2019, 10:06 AM   #23
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FWD don't care.
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This could be epic! However unless the F22 interior improves it could be a hard sell...
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the US will get an xdrive version with 300hp.

people already hating on this fwd for no reason.

Half the people commenting are not even going to buy one anyway.

Im hoping it has a liftback and not just a tiny trunk opening. This is the perfect replacement for my long gone but not forgotten E46 sedan.

turbo 4, 300hp, awd, 30mpg.. whats the hate in that?
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the US will get an xdrive version with 300hp.

people already hating on this fwd for no reason.

Half the people commenting are not even going to buy one anyway.

Im hoping it has a liftback and not just a tiny trunk opening. This is the perfect replacement for my long gone but not forgotten E46 sedan.

turbo 4, 300hp, awd, 30mpg.. whats the hate in that?
we are hating on a fwd BMW, because it Is the wrong drive wheels for a BMW.

why get a fwd 2 series sedan when you can just get a 300 hp camry?
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So itís going to get the new 3 series rear lights style and a new interior.

Shame itís FWD or Front bias AWD. No thanks.

WTH are they teasing it six months from the reveal and 12 months from launch?
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This could be epic! However unless the F22 interior improves it could be a hard sell...
New interior I believe. Remember this is more akin to the new 1 series not like the old 2 series.
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New interior I believe. Remember this is more akin to the new 1 series not like the old 2 series.
Ah very interesting then, could be a spiritual successor to original sized 3 series etc
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They've only shown a small portion of the car and the criticism has already begun
It's front wheel drive. I don't need to see any more of it to know I have no interest in this car. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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I don't think so. Hard to get much from that pic. The only version that might be of interest is an xDrive version
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What are they doing to the Hoftmeister Kink?!


Bring the normal kink!
Completely agree.

They already screwed it up with the new 3 Series...

They need to review their design team.
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They've only shown a small portion of the car and the criticism has already begun
It's front wheel drive. I don't need to see any more of it to know I have no interest in this car. I'm sure I'm not alone.
I completely agree. I was referencing the 1st post about the styling.

So disappointed that it's FWD. If they made a RWD/4WD M2 Gran Coupe, it would tick all the right boxes for me
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the US will get an xdrive version with 300hp.

people already hating on this fwd for no reason.

Half the people commenting are not even going to buy one anyway.

Im hoping it has a liftback and not just a tiny trunk opening. This is the perfect replacement for my long gone but not forgotten E46 sedan.

turbo 4, 300hp, awd, 30mpg.. whats the hate in that?
I am hating on this FWD for one reason.

Not RWD..


I'm definitely one of the half the people commenting that aren't going to buy one (now).

Just like I own an E84 X1 and haven't bought an F48..

I agree that BMW has abandoned E30, E36 , E46, and E90 sedan fans by pushing the Model currently badged as 3er so far up in size, however returning with a FWD/AWD variant only because Mercedes A and Audi A3 have been eating your lunch in the segment you pioneered, and then to now just follow ...

At the very least this should be capable of AWD/RWD like the M5 ..
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New interior I believe. Remember this is more akin to the new 1 series not like the old 2 series.
Ah very interesting then, could be a spiritual successor to original sized 3 series etc
The original 3 series just called to remind you it would never have wanted to be FWD.
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Packaging. It's simple. My Mk7 has more room inside than an F20 five door by a large margin. And this thing will likely have more interior space than a much larger E90.

And did no one actually drive an F30? Oh boy, it was rwd, and so are tons of other snooze mobiles. If you want to clip apexes and trail brake deep into turns, are you really buying a non M BMW anyway? Okay, why?

This is a daily driver, not a track hound. Not the basis for the next great M car (or sadly, truck.)

I enjoyed a friend's E36 M3 sedan, but we had a B5 A4 at the time that wasn't any larger on the outside but sure fit four adults better.

Now I'm not saying I love the fwd conversion at BMW. Our E84 was great and I'd never buy an F48. I really wish BMW had used the Mini brand, or Morris or, well, anything before creating fwd BMWs, but whatever, if it gives them an A3/A/CLA competitor, cool.
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New interior I believe. Remember this is more akin to the new 1 series not like the old 2 series.
Ah very interesting then, could be a spiritual successor to original sized 3 series etc
The original 3 series just called to remind you it would never have wanted to be FWD.
Yeah, but it probably called back and reminded you that it didn't want a turbo or a silly automatic either.
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the US will get an xdrive version with 300hp.

people already hating on this fwd for no reason.

Half the people commenting are not even going to buy one anyway.

Im hoping it has a liftback and not just a tiny trunk opening. This is the perfect replacement for my long gone but not forgotten E46 sedan.

turbo 4, 300hp, awd, 30mpg.. whats the hate in that?
no reason? people hate on fwd because its trash....how can you even question that statement? As a current 235 owner I can say without a doubt that I wouldn't even test drive this Acura civic competitor. I'm sure many current 2 owners share the same logic.
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New interior I believe. Remember this is more akin to the new 1 series not like the old 2 series.
Ah very interesting then, could be a spiritual successor to original sized 3 series etc
The original 3 series just called to remind you it would never have wanted to be FWD.
Yeah, but it probably called back and reminded you that it didn't want a turbo or a silly automatic either.
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The original 3 series just called to remind you it would never have wanted to be FWD.
Haha obvs, yes I was thinking size but just typed spiritual successor. and it probably had to Fax or Page me too!
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