Procede V5 11-01 Aggressive maps now available

jdbretz · 11-03-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

So what is the deal with auto tuning on these maps, defaults to off when loaded. No auto tuning yet?

That is stated in the read me file:

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-Autotuning is currently disabled. So you will have to chose the appropriate map. Stg1, Stg2 and Stg3 get increasingly aggressive. Stg 1 is appropriate for unmodified (or lightly modified) vehicles. Stg 2 is intended for more modified vehicles (ie, downpipes or FMIC). And Stg3 is intended for a fully modified cars (DCI and downpipes and FMIC). Using a map that is too aggressive for your hardware/conditions will result in inconsistent performance.

scottp999 · 11-03-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jdbretz

That is stated in the read me file:

Thanks. Funny how I can choose to skip over the wording I don't want to see.

I must have opened that readme 3-4 times and never saw it. Maybe because I'm on a little netbook, opening it in notepad and having to scroll right to left, I just missed it. Thanks again.

dbjb · 11-03-2011, 09:44 PM

-These maps are mainly intended for 93 (or higher) octane fuels. The use of lower octane (91oct) may result in inconsistent performance.

4) 0% Ignition Correction is now MORE aggressive than before. This is because 0% IC results in positive ignition correction (advance). This means running 0% IC is more critical of octane/fuel quality than before.

Shiv, Based on these statements, anything you would recommend for us Cali users on 91?

chrisw335i · 11-03-2011, 09:49 PM

yeah i hate scrolling left to right on mine to lol

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Originally Posted by scottp999

Thanks. Funny how I can choose to skip over the wording I don't want to see.

I must have opened that readme 3-4 times and never saw it. Maybe because I'm on a little netbook, opening it in notepad and having to scroll right to left, I just missed it. Thanks again.

jdbretz · 11-03-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisw335i

yeah i hate scrolling left to right on mine to lol

If you turn on "Word Wrap" it will avoid that issue of having to scroll. Open the document in Note Pad, click Format, and select Word Wrap. Problem solved

chrisw335i · 11-03-2011, 10:04 PM

just gonna manually open it with word instead of notepad by default

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Originally Posted by jdbretz

If you turn on "Word Wrap" it will avoid that issue of having to scroll. Open the document in Note Pad, click Format, and select Word Wrap. Problem solved

akotten · 11-03-2011, 10:15 PM

Vishnu

So I just got these smoothed out. (crappy gas and elevation). All I can say is WOW. My car has NEVER felt this strong. All I have is Tune, DCI, and catback exhaust. ....and my Vishnu chargepipe is coming tomorrow. Can't wait to order the rest!!!

OpenFlash · 11-03-2011, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by akotten

Vishnu

So I just got these smoothed out. (crappy gas and elevation). All I can say is WOW. My car has NEVER felt this strong. All I have is Tune, DCI, and catback exhaust. ....and my Vishnu chargepipe is coming tomorrow. Can't wait to order the rest!!!

Great to hear! Have fun

OpenFlash · 11-03-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dsbj

-These maps are mainly intended for 93 (or higher) octane fuels. The use of lower octane (91oct) may result in inconsistent performance.

4) 0% Ignition Correction is now MORE aggressive than before. This is because 0% IC results in positive ignition correction (advance). This means running 0% IC is more critical of octane/fuel quality than before.

Shiv, Based on these statements, anything you would recommend for us Cali users on 91?

The maps are "officially" for 93+ octane applications. But they have been known to work quite well on quality 91 oct (shell or 76... NOT generics) in decent conditions. It's just important to not run a too-aggressive stage for your conditions/mods. Of course, if you run PWM meth, there is no issue whatsoever. All our local PWM test cars run these new maps. On 91oct.

shiv

yalibuda · 11-04-2011, 04:06 AM

Shiv

I have a different question. Is it works that firmware 109 + tuneface V5.31 +MAP 7-29?
I want to try MAP 11-1 tonight. But if I dont like it can I just upload MAP 7-29 & not upload firmware?

MrHeavyFoot · 11-04-2011, 06:02 AM

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-Autotuning is currently disabled. So you will have to chose the appropriate map. Stg1, Stg2 and Stg3 get increasingly aggressive. Stg 1 is appropriate for unmodified (or lightly modified) vehicles. Stg 2 is intended for more modified vehicles (ie, downpipes or FMIC). And Stg3 is intended for a fully modified cars (DCI and downpipes and FMIC). Using a map that is too aggressive for your hardware/conditions will result in inconsistent performance.

I have DCI, high-flow catted DPs, FMIC and PWM meth. Only performance exhaust. Can I run stage 3? Seems to be what is suggested in the readme but my exhaust is more restrictive than what I thought FBO should be.

Also, what are the recommended map 2 settings for people who are not comfortable running 75/25 but instead prefer 50/50 meth mix?

enrita · 11-04-2011, 07:27 AM

Shiv: whats Debug byte 7 in the channel list?

C4sF80M3 · 11-04-2011, 08:45 AM

My biggest issues with the 7-29maps is that they felt like they lost a tremendous amount of light throttle power compared to the 6-14 maps. Even my wife who almost never drives my car, thought she had somehow screwed up the car because to her she felt it lost a lot of power driving it around town. Of course I didn't bother telling her that I had just switched maps/firmware.

I think the biggest difference that I can notice is that the 6-14 maps seem to have instant boost no matter how far the pedal is pressed, so it feels more like a turbo car that doesn't have vacuum operated wastegates. Just switching to the 7-29 maps, I can immediately tell that I have to push the gas much further in before I have any boost kick-in. So driving around town, the car feels like it has no power until I really press the gas in. Has anyone else noticed this partial throttle power response difference between the 6-14 and 7-29 maps?

What's the cost to upgrade to the 2.5 rev? I thought there was going to be DIY article so we could make the changes ourselves?

bryce · 11-04-2011, 08:52 AM

i'm really enjoying these new maps (stage III). midrange torque is much improved, i'm struggling to keep traction in 3rd gear now. upper rpm's, the power is still very strong, and the maps are more rev-happy than i anticipated. overall, great update! looking forward to the auto-tuned versions of the maps!

bryce · 11-04-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by c4s335i

What's the cost to upgrade to the 2.5 rev? I thought there was going to be DIY article so we could make the changes ourselves?

it's $50 IIRC. email shiv. they have an exchange program so you won't be without a tune for even 1 day. i highly recommend upgrading!

topspin · 11-04-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by c4s335i

What's the cost to upgrade to the 2.5 rev? I thought there was going to be DIY article so we could make the changes ourselves?

I just called in an order to upgrade to 2.5.

It's $50 + shipping in my case about $21 + $100 refundable deposit with return of procede.

Pretty good deal in my opinion.

C4sF80M3 · 11-04-2011, 10:15 AM

What's the lead time? Do they some ready to ship?

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Originally Posted by topspin

I just called in an order to upgrade to 2.5.

It's $50 + shipping in my case about $21 + $100 refundable deposit with return of procede.

Pretty good deal in my opinion.

jpsimon · 11-04-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by c4s335i

What's the lead time? Do they some ready to ship?

yep they're ready to ship. i ordered on friday, it shipped out monday. it arrived on wednesday

C4sF80M3 · 11-04-2011, 10:20 AM

I guess I need to give them a call when they eventually open up today.

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

yep they're ready to ship. i ordered on friday, it shipped out monday. it arrived on wednesday

TurboBimmer · 11-04-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by topspin

I just called in an order to upgrade to 2.5.

It's $50 + shipping in my case about $21 + $100 refundable deposit with return of procede.

Pretty good deal in my opinion.

Thanks for the info, that's good news! Will contact them also to upgrade to 2.5

franzzz · 11-04-2011, 10:56 AM

Map and firmware installed.

Map1 and Map2 are the same ?

It's possible to modify map1 or map2 in order to limit the max boost ? (map1 soft and map2 strong for example)
tnx

dbjb · 11-04-2011, 11:37 AM

Shiv,

Has there been any considerations of dumping Map 3 and replacing it with a customized map? From what I can tell, no one is really using it. It doesn't seem to really improve mpg, at least not much. If using it for valet mode, I could just switch to map 0. I would love to gain another meth map with less aggressive attributes. Something that would cap about 13 psi but still utilize meth. That's about what I run when visiting road courses. Thoughts?

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dbjb I sweat pheromones 206 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: e92 335i, retired SLK55 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (25)	-These maps are mainly intended for 93 (or higher) octane fuels. The use of lower octane (91oct) may result in inconsistent performance. 4) 0% Ignition Correction is now MORE aggressive than before. This is because 0% IC results in positive ignition correction (advance). This means running 0% IC is more critical of octane/fuel quality than before. Shiv, Based on these statements, anything you would recommend for us Cali users on 91?
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akotten Major 38 Rep 1,079 Posts Drives: 2004 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Wichita, KS iTrader: (2)	Vishnu So I just got these smoothed out. (crappy gas and elevation). All I can say is WOW. My car has NEVER felt this strong. All I have is Tune, DCI, and catback exhaust. ....and my Vishnu chargepipe is coming tomorrow. Can't wait to order the rest!!!
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yalibuda New Member 6 Rep 25 Posts Drives: E46 + E92 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Taiwan iTrader: (0)	Shiv I have a different question. Is it works that firmware 109 + tuneface V5.31 +MAP 7-29? I want to try MAP 11-1 tonight. But if I dont like it can I just upload MAP 7-29 & not upload firmware? __________________ Causal Swing~
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C4sF80M3 First Lieutenant 23 Rep 303 Posts Drives: 17 F80 M3 ZCP Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	My biggest issues with the 7-29maps is that they felt like they lost a tremendous amount of light throttle power compared to the 6-14 maps. Even my wife who almost never drives my car, thought she had somehow screwed up the car because to her she felt it lost a lot of power driving it around town. Of course I didn't bother telling her that I had just switched maps/firmware. I think the biggest difference that I can notice is that the 6-14 maps seem to have instant boost no matter how far the pedal is pressed, so it feels more like a turbo car that doesn't have vacuum operated wastegates. Just switching to the 7-29 maps, I can immediately tell that I have to push the gas much further in before I have any boost kick-in. So driving around town, the car feels like it has no power until I really press the gas in. Has anyone else noticed this partial throttle power response difference between the 6-14 and 7-29 maps? What's the cost to upgrade to the 2.5 rev? I thought there was going to be DIY article so we could make the changes ourselves?
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bryce Banned 109 Rep 3,177 Posts Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [7.34] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [6.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [7.14]	i'm really enjoying these new maps (stage III). midrange torque is much improved, i'm struggling to keep traction in 3rd gear now. upper rpm's, the power is still very strong, and the maps are more rev-happy than i anticipated. overall, great update! looking forward to the auto-tuned versions of the maps!
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franzzz Captain 144 Rep 931 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: ITALY iTrader: (0)	Map and firmware installed. Map1 and Map2 are the same ? It's possible to modify map1 or map2 in order to limit the max boost ? (map1 soft and map2 strong for example) tnx __________________ BMW F82 M4 Black MHD CS Map - GTS DKG - Navi -Performance Brake RSL1 Pads - USB - DivX-DVD - Bluetooth - VoiceControl - Connect - Apps - Online - H&K - TrafficInfo - SpLimInfo - WhiteMerino- PDC - Cam - Adaptive Led - Antitheft - CP Steering- Performance ST - Adaptive CP Setup - GarageDoorOpen - Pipercross - Stock Exhaust - Mdrivers Pack - 437M Wheels
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dbjb I sweat pheromones 206 Rep 2,103 Posts Drives: e92 335i, retired SLK55 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (25)	Shiv, Has there been any considerations of dumping Map 3 and replacing it with a customized map? From what I can tell, no one is really using it. It doesn't seem to really improve mpg, at least not much. If using it for valet mode, I could just switch to map 0. I would love to gain another meth map with less aggressive attributes. Something that would cap about 13 psi but still utilize meth. That's about what I run when visiting road courses. Thoughts?
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