[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by lamia2super

doesn't matter what turbo upgrade you have? no specif maps for ASR turbos etc?

At this point in development, no. But expect to adjust boost control gain to compensate for your specific wastegate setting/type. The rest of the stuff should fall into place rather nicely.

Shiv

[XPO186]

I need to shop for a new clutch

[Longboarder]

Is the firmware for the 11-01 maps (pro5v109) the same firmware used for the 10-18 maps? Robert loaded 10-18 directly on to my unit when I upgraded to 2.5 so I have no idea which firmware controlled 10-18. Thanks.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Is the firmware for the 11-01 maps (pro5v109) the same firmware used for the 10-18 maps? Robert loaded 10-18 directly on to my unit when I upgraded to 2.5 so I have no idea which firmware controlled 10-18. Thanks.

Nope. It is different. As always, we recommend updating the firmware along with the map.

[lamia2super]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

At this point in development, no. But expect to adjust boost control gain to compensate for your specific wastegate setting/type. The rest of the stuff should fall into place rather nicely.

Shiv

kk im going to go for a spin tonight to see how things are

[ttbmer]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Is the firmware for the 11-01 maps (pro5v109) the same firmware used for the 10-18 maps? Robert loaded 10-18 directly on to my unit when I upgraded to 2.5 so I have no idea which firmware controlled 10-18. Thanks.

V5.30

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by bryce

i'm still on the 7-29 autotuning maps. before i upload this new firmware/maps, i was wondering if i could get some specific feedback:

i love how the 7-29 maps feel, it's almost like an n/a car that pulls really hard in the upper rpm range, along with great torque down low. autotuned to 0% ic makes the car feel very rev-peppy, i love the throttle response!

i heard a little feedback a few weeks ago, that these new aggressive maps feel less rev-happy, but have more torque. can anyone compare the throttle response and upper-rpm performance please?

I felt that it had more top end personally. I also ran without meth on the appropriate settings and noticed a noticeable bump in power output throughout the entire RPM range and definitely the bottom end.

[Unkie]

Will this eventually be rolled out for Rev2 units as well?

[jpsimon]

50 bux to upgrade, go for it

[GetWellSoon]

agressive with meth is compatible with non PWM meth kits ?

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Unkie

Will this eventually be rolled out for Rev2 units as well?

The internal hardware of the Rev2 cannot support what these new maps do. You must upgrade if you want to use these new maps.

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

agressive with meth is compatible with non PWM meth kits ?

In the user adjustable just switch from PWM (default) to PPS

[GetWellSoon]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

The internal hardware of the Rev2 cannot support what these new maps do. You must upgrade if you want to use these new maps.




In the user adjustable just switch from PWM (default) to PPS

Yeah but Shiv stated before that the PPS system might not be good enough for his aggressive maps

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

Yeah but Shiv stated before that the PPS system might not be good enough for his aggressive maps

It works, but PWM works better.
The thing with new maps is your car must be up to par. You must have a reliable methanol system, flowing adequately with excellent atomization.
He knows with the PWM kit you will have that but he cant speak for every PPS kit as they all differ a lot with many nozzle size differences, placement, flow, atomization, charge pipe design, ETC ETC

Just run some logs and see where you are at.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

Yeah but Shiv stated before that the PPS system might not be good enough for his aggressive maps

I asked the same question 2 days ago. It works, just not as refined as PWM.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

Yeah but Shiv stated before that the PPS system might not be good enough for his aggressive maps

PPS kits don't quite offer the same level of knock suppression, all things equal, as the PWM meth kit. Which is why you typically have to spray more volume to get the same results. But spraying more meth has a downside when it comes to cylinder-to-cylinder meth distribution. Especially when using a single larger nozzle and not two smaller nozzlers (as few people do). Nozzle placement is also critical and I've seen PPS meth kits with nozzles mounted too close to the throttle body. So yes, PPS meth will work but there are some caveats/things to look at if you want to get full performance out of these maps.

Cheers,
shiv

[GetWellSoon]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

PPS kits don't quite offer the same level of knock suppression, all things equal, as the PWM meth kit. Which is why you typically have to spray more volume to get the same results. But spraying more meth has a downside when it comes to cylinder-to-cylinder meth distribution. Especially when using a single larger nozzle and not two smaller nozzlers (as few people do). Nozzle placement is also critical and I've seen PPS meth kits with nozzles mounted too close to the throttle body. So yes, PPS meth will work but there are some caveats/things to look at if you want to get full performance out of these maps.

Cheers,
shiv

Hey but nozzles on your cp are pretty close to the TB, so with the PPS kit you would recommend placing the nozzles as far as possible from the TB and dual nozzle setup about 7 and 7 for straight meth ?

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by GetWellSoon

Hey but nozzles on your cp are pretty close to the TB, so with the PPS kit you would recommend placing the nozzles as far as possible from the TB and dual nozzle setup about 7 and 7 for straight meth ?

M7 and M5 is plenty, farthest from the TB Post intercooler.

[ttbmer]

Im running pwm Kit and i dont know wa size of nozzles I got....

[OpenFlash]

Lol.. You have dual 1.0mm nozzles. Just pick the appropriate stg map and set map2 values to 65% boost and 0% IC.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by ttbmer

Im running pwm Kit and i dont know wa size of nozzles I got....

Nozzle sizing is different for PWM VS PPS.

IF you have the PWM kit from vishnu these maps are set up for you.


Just run stage 2 or 3 depending on your mods. Probably 3 as it seems you have full bolt ons.

[bryce]

have any non-meth FBO guys changed the IC values with any luck? is it recommended to leave those as is?

[chrisw335i]

shiv..sorry but im a little confused with these new maps..one part of your read me file says map 2 start boost should be 65% and ignition 0% respectively...but further reading says that the scaling has all been changed..default user parameters following the update has map 1 and 2 on 14.9 start boost and 0 IC. are we or are we not supposed to change start boost for map 2 to 65% or leave it alone?