Remote start option now available but

jacko15 · 08-27-2021, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jsh139

Can aftermarket remote start not be added to pre 2022s?

Our local auto electronics store has several different remote starts for the X3's '21 and before.

Alias1431 · 08-27-2021, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jacko15

Our local auto electronics store has several different remote starts for the X3's '21 and before.

Am I correct in thinking you need to sacrifice a FOB to do so? I know that was the case with 2018-2019.

jsh139 · 08-27-2021, 05:19 PM

This is the first car I've ever had factory remote start on. I’ve always just added a viper system to my cars for about $350. Not sure about sacrificing a fob, but then again the other cars I’ve had didn’t have this kind of “comfort access”. People seem to be really upset that it took BMW this long to add it. I was just curious if there was some sort of barrier to adding it aftermarket.

lambmw · 08-27-2021, 06:34 PM

I think it is the most petty thing to not offer it on a '21 model year that already has Idrive 7. To reference the guy above, it shouldn't have been a matter of do I spend $65K in 2021 or $65 in 2022, it should have been an option for either year. Remote start shouldn't have been used as bait to push people into the LCI segment.. X3's are their best selling car.. they should have just design the LCI better and people like me who care more about looks than tech wouldve bitten.

Remote start is a nice to have as it gets hot as hell in Hawaii, but not a must for me. My issue is more so the principle of it. Frankly I got the car to drive the hell out of it not to ensure I get every bell and whistle offered on a car.

Alias1431 · 08-27-2021, 07:12 PM

I think it was more to push people into an X5. It's also mostly the principle for me, as well.

M40i4me · 08-27-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jsh139

Can aftermarket remote start not be added to pre 2022s?

Yes, here is one company that lets you use your own fob.
https://www.eurostart.com/product/brs7

Demo of how it works.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...cHD8lplGSve3tQ

zukmeister · 08-27-2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M40i4me

Yes, here is one company that lets you use your own fob.
https://www.eurostart.com/product/brs7

Demo of how it works.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...cHD8lplGSve3tQ

and warranty voided

My 2007 maxima had remote start on it... this is embarrassing

f82fanatic · 08-27-2021, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lambmw

I think it is the most petty thing to not offer it on a '21 model year that already has Idrive 7. To reference the guy above, it shouldn't have been a matter of do I spend $65K in 2021 or $65 in 2022, it should have been an option for either year. Remote start shouldn't have been used as bait to push people into the LCI segment.. X3's are their best selling car.. they should have just design the LCI better and people like me who care more about looks than tech wouldve bitten.

Remote start is a nice to have as it gets hot as hell in Hawaii, but not a must for me. My issue is more so the principle of it. Frankly I got the car to drive the hell out of it not to ensure I get every bell and whistle offered on a car.

Trust me, remote start was not the main motivator for most people to get LCI.

At least for me, it was not a priority at all.

I picked LCI because of looks, extra HP, interior, larger screen, etc.

jacko15 · 08-27-2021, 09:20 PM

This is an interesting read:

https://www.enormis.net/enormis-does...your-warranty/

freshxdough · 08-27-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jacko15

This is an interesting read:

https://www.enormis.net/enormis-does...your-warranty/

It is true that anything alone won't just immediately void your warranty. But any concerns related to the vehicle starting or electrical systems tampered when installing the aftermarket remote start system (which is not OEM) will not be covered under warranty and will need to be taken care of by means of customer pay.

jacko15 · 08-27-2021, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freshxdough

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacko15

This is an interesting read:

https://www.enormis.net/enormis-does...your-warranty/

It is true that anything alone won't just immediately void your warranty. But any concerns related to the vehicle starting or electrical systems tampered when installing the aftermarket remote start system (which is not OEM) will not be covered under warranty and will need to be taken care of by means of customer pay.

Of course, it's always caveat emptor.

Ravenous666 · 08-28-2021, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lambmw

I think it is the most petty thing to not offer it on a '21 model year that already has Idrive 7. To reference the guy above, it shouldn't have been a matter of do I spend $65K in 2021 or $65 in 2022, it should have been an option for either year. Remote start shouldn't have been used as bait to push people into the LCI segment.. X3's are their best selling car.. they should have just design the LCI better and people like me who care more about looks than tech wouldve bitten.

Remote start is a nice to have as it gets hot as hell in Hawaii, but not a must for me. My issue is more so the principle of it. Frankly I got the car to drive the hell out of it not to ensure I get every bell and whistle offered on a car.

You don't get it....

It was not a matter of "just adding it to 2021".

Until the LCI, the X3 G01s plattform was not able to handle remote start with it's hardware even with the iDrive 7 Nav display. The hardware changes introduced with the LCI (and a bit earlier with the iX3) are mandatory for some of the functions like remote start, RSU and drive recorder.

Rob_G77 · 08-28-2021, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freshxdough

It is true that anything alone won't just immediately void your warranty. But any concerns related to the vehicle starting or electrical systems tampered when installing the aftermarket remote start system (which is not OEM) will not be covered under warranty and will need to be taken care of by means of customer pay.

After having a third party remote starter installed in a 2012 4Runner I will never go that route again. The Toyota dealer installation was absolutely sloppy and the unit never worked correctly. When confronted, my sales guy said 'oh, what would you like us to do about it?'.

I don't trust anyone who is possibly cutting and splicing wiring under the dash and I don't trust the electronics they are using.

I'm glad the X3/X4 finally have remote start. I always assumed it was to push X5 sales, but the point is moot now.

Rob

strike4A · 08-28-2021, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freshxdough

Announced today is the ability to Purchase the Remote Start function if your vehicle didn't already come from factory with it optioned.

——ONLY available for SP18 idrive 7 cars (G01 LCI and G30 LCI) and all other idrive 7 cars. ——

Previously BMW had given the impression it would be available for ALL idrive 7 vehicles including preLCI G01 and G30. Looks like that's not going to be the case. There is no way to add OEM remote start any other way. There is no way to upgrade the idrive to SP18.

Thanks.

Are you sure LCI is running SP18?

This guy here seems to think different: https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=27929389

Ravenous666 · 08-28-2021, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by strike4A

Are you sure LCI is running SP18?

This guy here seems to think different: https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=27929389

They did not redesign the G01 new from scratch, but put in the required SP18 control modules.

New BDC3 is confirmed as well as new KAFAS and there should also be a backup battery to allow RSU.

BMWZ4 · 08-28-2021, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alias1431

We know, we're just salty BMW chose not to include it for so long while available in basically every other series. Other brands half the price have had it as an option, or even standard, for years.

Exactly. My son's 2018 Kia (purchased in 2017) has remote start...and AA...

freshxdough · 08-28-2021, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by strike4A

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshxdough

Announced today is the ability to Purchase the Remote Start function if your vehicle didn't already come from factory with it optioned.

——ONLY available for SP18 idrive 7 cars (G01 LCI and G30 LCI) and all other idrive 7 cars. ——

Previously BMW had given the impression it would be available for ALL idrive 7 vehicles including preLCI G01 and G30. Looks like that's not going to be the case. There is no way to add OEM remote start any other way. There is no way to upgrade the idrive to SP18.

Thanks.

Are you sure LCI is running SP18?

This guy here seems to think different: https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=27929389

It is running Full idrive 7 with all capabilities like remote start, remote software upgrade and drive recorder. I think you may be looking into the technicality of it still saying SP15 for the vehicle software numbers but it is running full SP18 hardware.

DenverSteve · 08-29-2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freshxdough

If your car already has remote start then you have no need to read any of this information. This is for customers who have bought a car and didn't option remote start.

^^^ Which should have been obvious that the OP was posting about retrofitting - not OEM.

freshxdough · 08-29-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverSteve

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshxdough

If your car already has remote start then you have no need to read any of this information. This is for customers who have bought a car and didn't option remote start.

^^^ Which should have been obvious that the OP was posting about retrofitting - not OEM.

Lol what

BMW335icoupe · 08-29-2021, 12:58 PM

Thanks for sharing. As a G01 Pre-LCI owner, I understand the frustration, but BMW needs to continue giving people a reason to upgrade, which I understand.

I do park in the garage in the winter. Outside in the summer. Idling is not great for the engine either way, from my understanding, but it would be nice to come out to a warm car after work.

I also understand that other brands offer it because that's how they convince people to buy their brand over a BMW. BMW/Porsche/Audi/MB, you need to pay extra for these features or in some cases not get them at all.

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