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I don't agree with catering to the lower end of the spectrum when it means compromising your core brand. BMW could've done RWD and been competitive but they chose not to which is my point
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Sadly, I think our current M's are such beasts is because they see the writing on the wall and know already, the end of an era. I am just glad to have gotten a little bite before it was too late. |
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Good car, ok maybe. Good BMW, no.
I get why they are doing it, but you aren't going to convince me this is better than RWD based cars. |
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11-21-2019, 08:02 PM | #27 |
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Fake news.
This is just a prime example of a "journalist" saying positive things because the manufacturer flew them out to test drive their car. Real impressions will come back in a few months, and will not be from the likes of Jalopnik. What this car has that the E46 didn't: FWD, no manual, electric steering, Ford Focus-like styling. Sad.
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Just doesn't look as premium or polished as an A class, S3, Golf R or even Megane RS. This would be way down the list of choices.
Funnily enough, they have increased the price here for the new FWD-based AWD M135i I4 model, above the outgoing RWD/AWD M140i I6 it replaces. |
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I thought the author's theoretical WRX owner shopping for something with far more refinement was a fairly good one. It's a matter of perspective. Personally I like the idea of lowering the cost of admission for a BMW, especially an M Performance model.
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If I buyt FWD based AWD car, it will be either Gold R or Audi S3. They have done it for so long. If not VW, I would still consider A35 or GLA35 before 2GC. There are many other (better) options in that category. |
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How is it not a proper BMW when the company produced AWD E30's between 1985-1992 and AWD E34's between 1991-1996 (...also recall the AWD E46's)? It would seem that your perspective on the company needs refreshing.
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Those cars were 50/50 setups. This is 100/0 until slip is detected. Perhaps not a big deal to some, but definitely not "the same."
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It's amusing when people make declarations about what a "real bmw" is and isn't, or make sweeping comments about what bmw is all about. The problem is, that their interpretation of what a bmw is supposed to be is typically based on subjective preferences. Often these preferences are based on what the critic's first bmw was - a tiny sliver of bmw's history and product line.
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That's not accurate. The center differential had a default front/rear torque split ratio of 37:63 due to the design of the planetary gear. Up to 80% of the torque could be distributed.
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Listen BMW, you've really done it now... you've gone form making the ultimate driving machines to now the ultimate money making machines :
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