2020 BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe (F44) Official Thread: Price, Specs, Wallpapers, Videos

buckybadger · 10-16-2019, 12:20 AM

The next M2 is gonna look ridiculous. This new design is too floaty.

cfm56d7b · 10-16-2019, 12:37 AM

It's safe to say only sales statistics will vindicate the design direction and decision to launch 2 series GC.

TEGRITY · 10-16-2019, 12:39 AM

the rear design goes against the 'sporty' look they are claiming to achieve. front and side views are not bad but the back styling spoils it IMO.

on a general note, all this baby m's and baby AMGs are just spoiling the total outlook of their offerings. clearly a great sales strategy to target all customer segments but that distinguishing factor and sense of pride when you own a real M or AMG is just not there anymore. Feel bad for those real M and AMG owners.

Sedan_Clan · 10-16-2019, 12:41 AM

I don't like this car at all. The 2 went from being such a good looking little car to looking so......American.

SoCali E36 · 10-16-2019, 12:57 AM

You almost want to naturally hate this car. I'm trying my best to really like it but there's absolutely nothing about it that would make a grown ass man want to buy it. This is perfect for kids in high school or a graduation gift for a daughter for going to college.

///M TOWN · 10-16-2019, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by duercos

Current 2 series owners make fun of the new body, when in reality it looks much better, than the older one

I disagree

frankchn · 10-16-2019, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

It's safe to say only sales statistics will vindicate the design direction and decision to launch 2 series GC.

Looking at A3 and CLA sales, I think it will be vindicated.

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Originally Posted by PKthePM

on a general note, all this baby m's and baby AMGs are just spoiling the total outlook of their offerings. clearly a great sales strategy to target all customer segments but that distinguishing factor and sense of pride when you own a real M or AMG is just not there anymore. Feel bad for those real M and AMG owners.

Well, I don’t think any FWD M235is rolling around has any effect on the enjoyment of my car. If BMW can sell more M Performance cars and thus have more money to plow back into R&D (hopefully to cars I want in the future), then I say bring it on!

DrivenByE30 · 10-16-2019, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCali E36

You almost want to naturally hate this car. I'm trying my best to really like it but there's absolutely nothing about it that would make a grown ass man want to buy it. This is perfect for kids in high school or a graduation gift for a daughter for going to college.

Stole the words right out of my mouth...

This is lipstick on a turd...

Nothing to see here... bMW has given up.... Look at me turn my attention elsewhere : Honda, Mazda, Kia, Hyundai, Tesla, or even Toyota....

Sedan_Clan · 10-16-2019, 01:39 AM

SCOTT26,

I thought you said this 2GC was going to be a looker?!?! The 4 looked interesting and bold, but this just looks like a Ford Focus.

cc3 · 10-16-2019, 01:54 AM

Hopeless buy other brands BMW completely lost the plot

Poochie · 10-16-2019, 03:17 AM

Anyone who's not convinced that BMW can't create an exhilarating FWD 4 cylinder vehicle really needs to drive the last generation Mini Cooper JCW.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by its potential and would absolutely change your outlook on the controversial FWD platform.

#DontKnockTillYouTryIt

DrivenByE30 · 10-16-2019, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Poochie

Anyone who's not convinced that BMW can't create an exhilarating FWD 4 cylinder vehicle really needs to drive the last generation Mini Cooper JCW.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by its potential and would absolutely change your outlook on the controversial FWD platform.

#DontKnockTillYouTryIt

Dynamically, It will not be a bad car... It will quite good and competitive...

But esthetically, visually, design-wise.. it is a messy of a cheap looking drawing and penmanship... Not worthy of a BMW/M badge

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

SCOTT26,

I thought you said this 2GC was going to be a looker?!?! The 4 looked interesting and bold, but this just looks like a Ford Focus.

Agreed

Just because Ford decided not to make sedans anymore doesn't mean BMW has to do it for them ...

paddyrx8 · 10-16-2019, 03:51 AM

The problem with this car is from the A pillar forward. It has a very hatchback front with a slick coupe body. The front of the car sits far too high, meaning that the window line looks like it's going well under the bonnet / hood of the car. All the individual details on the car are great it's just the hatchback face and coupe body don't marry together. Cost saving is the reason for this.

SnMalone · 10-16-2019, 04:04 AM

What an ugly motherfucker. Crazy where BMW ist actually heading to..every new model gets fucked up

V-Eight · 10-16-2019, 04:26 AM

I'm totally disgusted about this 2er GC.

KSERGEI-BY · 10-16-2019, 04:46 AM

I have no issues with the fwd based xdrive, but IMHO, CLA looks way better then this.
Other words - BMW, u did ok except the exterior.

This fat butt and narrow lights just does not work for me.

clee1982 · 10-16-2019, 04:55 AM

I don't get the hate, this will sale as long as prices reasonably

ADEe92 · 10-16-2019, 05:55 AM

Hate to say it, but never mind the Mercedes, I'd take the Hyundai i30N Fastback over this! Which is a shame because I'd been hoping the 2GC would be the answer to my new car desires. I guess the i30N isn't an option in the US though.

Hmmmm Hyundai did poach the head of the BMW M Division to head up their N Performance development...

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 10-16-2019, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PKthePM

the rear design goes against the 'sporty' look they are claiming to achieve. front and side views are not bad but the back styling spoils it IMO.

on a general note, all this baby m's and baby AMGs are just spoiling the total outlook of their offerings. clearly a great sales strategy to target all customer segments but that distinguishing factor and sense of pride when you own a real M or AMG is just not there anymore. Feel bad for those real M and AMG owners.

When I read people express this sentiment, it sounds like the real people "buying the badge" are those M/AMG owners you describe feeling butt hurt. 💡

J-RO · 10-16-2019, 06:31 AM

Maybe the Chinese like it.

Fuller · 10-16-2019, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCali E36

You almost want to naturally hate this car. I'm trying my best to really like it but there's absolutely nothing about it that would make a grown ass man want to buy it. This is perfect for kids in high school or a graduation gift for a daughter for going to college.

I think that might be the intended market though. It's in the "cute" car segment. It's even fwd.

kyrix1st · 10-16-2019, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dveshawn

Something isn't right, but I can't put my finger on it

Wrong wheel drive and badge.

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