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It's been nearly a decade later and needless to say, people care about tech and comfort even more now. And thanks to Instagram culture the need to show off a badge is even bigger too. For every 1 dude/gal like us there's probably 99 who don't give a shit how the car drives. |
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03-20-2019, 01:26 PM | #68 |
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Looks like a suboptimal grading of Snapper Rocks Blue though.
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Of course a similarly sized rwd car will usually be more enjoyable than a similarly sized fwd or awd car, but when smallish rwd cars aren't available in a class, I'm willing to defect to pullers. |
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03-20-2019, 01:42 PM | #70 |
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BMW recently issued a profit warning for 2019:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/20/bmw-...cost-cuts.html The larger question for any company trying to generate profits in every market segment: when margin pressure trigger the trimming of the existing portfolio of cars / models? |
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03-20-2019, 02:31 PM | #71 |
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It has been stated in other posts that the M235 GC will be available in snapper rocks blue
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03-20-2019, 02:34 PM | #73 |
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Finally fixed the hideous rear end I see. Kudos. Wonder what the rest of the car will look like and if it'll be available in M-CS spec.
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03-20-2019, 03:11 PM | #76 |
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Who remembers this little fella
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03-20-2019, 03:38 PM | #78 |
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!!!The new 1 will be Front-wheel Drive!!!
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The problem here is this upcoming 2 series is not a small sporty 2 dr hatch with a very short wheelbase. BMW has that already from the same platform and it's badged MINI. BMW also has a stretched version of the MINI badged Countryman... which I am sure is much more likely what this 2er will be. Quote:
now BMW has introduced a 2 er gran coupe.. and it's not gonna be M (for now) and it's also not gonna be RWD. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 03-20-2019 at 07:45 PM.. |
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I was listening to a pod cast from whiteroofradio (minis) and they said bmw saved something like $7-800 per chassis by going front wheel drive for this car. I don't really understand how you make a platform but we all know it does cost more to engineer the car have an engine at the front, drive at the rear and use a driveshaft to connect it all together. The real sad thing is this car will look beautiful and sell by the thousands. But it will just be what the cla is- a way for bmw to advertise their products are at a lower price point for more people to get in at. It's a real shame. This would have been a great replacement for my zhp sedan. I say it every time they come out with a new car, and I don't really care about being a Debbie downer on this, those that disagree just don't get it: bmw no longer makes the types of cars that I fell in love with.
Question for the engineers here: if the platform is built for FWD when cars are spec'd with xdrive, will they be able to send more than 50% of the power to the rear, or does the platform prevent that?
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It's like every coupe has to have a "grand" version. This is ultimately why the 3 series was broke up after E9X IMO. You couldn't have a 4 series grand coupe previously because this would just be a ridiculously redundant 4 door 3 series. So why do we need a grand coupe in every model now? To me it's like PC car manufacturing! "We're bound to make something somebody likes now":
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Every other manufacturer got this done right.... Audi had an A4 and they moved in an A3 below it. Mercedes had a C class and moved in CLA below it. BMW should have simply made a 4 series coupe and sedan (F30/F80) and continued with both a 3 series coupe and sedan as F87 variants instead of trying to split the 3er into two models and then bring in a 2er coupe only and not even bringing a smaller sedan to market. As it is.. the F87 2er (which should have been badged a 3er based on size and history) and the current F80 4 series are essentially the same vehicles with different wheel bases, and just as buyers find a valid reason to buy an F87 M2 over an F82 M4... they would be able to select between an F88 M2 sedan and an F80 M3... |
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