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      11-29-2011, 10:06 AM   #23
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How did they know you were from Scotland?

Interestingly, when I was at Bath University, some chavvy black boy with his "crew" said to his friends when he saw me..." chinks, my god they're everywhere..."

wanted so much to smack the little retard and retaliate with one of my "racist" comments....but I'd probably get arrested....
The same way I knew he was Asian.

Appearance and accent give it away very easily.
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i think she had a really bad day and flipped and she didnt think,
end of the day we are only human, but i do think our country has let in far to many people into this country that just claim and live a free life i saw letter on facebook saying if asylum seekers come in a week early for xmas they can claim extra £130 for gas and elec, i feel for all old people that worked all there life to sit in the cold,
is it me but when i see a polish man there here to work to send money back to there family etc
would be nice to let people in that really care about our country
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      11-29-2011, 10:10 AM   #25
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I'd assume it was because

a) he was wearing a kilt
b) was playing bagpipes
c) or he spoke with a Scottish accent.

I don't know, but I'd guess c

How do you think ??!!!

LOL....the accent obviously!!!!.....duhhh...

but Kerr didn't say that he talked to them!...
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      11-29-2011, 10:12 AM   #26
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The same way I knew he was Asian.

Appearance and accent give it away very easily.
accent ...yes....

but appearance....

I wouldn't be able tell whos from Scotland...unless they wear a kilt! :-)
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i but i do think our country has let in far to many people into this country that just claim and live a free life
I couldn't agree more, but there's a time and place to vent ones opinions and as we know, on public transport isn't one of them. It just devalues the point IMO.
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accent ...yes....

but appearance....

I wouldn't be able tell whos from Scotland...unless they wear a kilt! :-)
It's the read hair and the manic stare.


(Only joking Kerr, before I get accused of racism )
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something that was posted on facebook i dont know if its a fake but it dosnt do any favours for the government
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accent ...yes....

but appearance....

I wouldn't be able tell whos from Scotland...unless they wear a kilt! :-)
You might guess I had scottish or irish roots from appearance.
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i think she had a really bad day and flipped and she didnt think,
end of the day we are only human, but i do think our country has let in far to many people into this country that just claim and live a free life i saw letter on facebook saying if asylum seekers come in a week early for xmas they can claim extra £130 for gas and elec, i feel for all old people that worked all there life to sit in the cold,
is it me but when i see a polish man there here to work to send money back to there family etc
would be nice to let people in that really care about our country
plus one!...they need to let people in who can adapt to the British culture/ life and people that can help the economy grow....not a bunch of asylum seekers who claim benefits, shit babies out like theres no tomorrow, live in 4 bedroom houses in West London, and later bomb London!!!
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i saw letter on facebook saying if asylum seekers come in a week early for xmas they can claim extra £130 for gas and elec
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Uh oh I don't want this to end up in some massive race debate guys I keep getting in "spoken to" by the big guy for my topics on this forum as it is

Ahh well *its not my fault... whistles.. *
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i think she had a really bad day and flipped and she didnt think,
end of the day we are only human, but i do think our country has let in far to many people into this country that just claim and live a free life i saw letter on facebook saying if asylum seekers come in a week early for xmas they can claim extra £130 for gas and elec, i feel for all old people that worked all there life to sit in the cold,
is it me but when i see a polish man there here to work to send money back to there family etc
would be nice to let people in that really care about our country
It's a contentious and difficult issue

Some of those foreign people on that tram could have been doctors or similar, and tomorrow they could save the life of someone close to you.

It is easy to mis-judge. There are a lot of scroungers but there are probably more white scroungers.

Some immigration policies are better in other countries but we still have a lazy culture in this country where a lot of under privileged people or people lacking skills won't settle for anything less than 20k PA and won't do the basic jobs starting at the bottom, so they choose to go on benefits. Where as people coming in from the EU will, they will do anything to survive and do it well. I employed a polish worker to do some computer programming for me. Despite his lack of english, he was easily the best person I've ever employed, turned up on time, worked harder and paid his taxes.

He has gone back to poland now, but simply to set up his own company. He served his purpose here.

There are obviously the horror stories of ridiculous benefit claims and special needs for immigrants. There does need to be some adjustments but we also need to get lazy people off benefits and back into jobs, regardless of what it is.
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i have been thinking about moving to oz as i am young and fancy something different, one reason is because it seems the only way to get far in life here is pay alot of tax or claim for everything, but it seems really hard to get a visa as its a points system over there, wish our country would do the same
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something that was posted on facebook i dont know if its a fake but it dosnt do any favours for the government
mate, thats nothing!!!!....


In my job role, I need to get references and process credit checks etc....

I've seen so many benefit claimers who don't seem "genuine".... ok, i got no proof, but you know that little feeling inside....

anyways.....1 case, i've seen with my own eyes!!!...

a guy (foreigner) who lives in a council flat was gona act as a guarantor for his brother (another foreigner) , so had to request financial info from the guarantor and found out about his status etc...

the facts:

the guy lives in a council flat....
get some kind of money from the council on a weekly basis...
got 3 kids...

HOWEVER, when i requested his bank statements, he had about £54k in his current a/c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....

now, i don't understand if someone has £54k in his current a/c....why is he getting benefits????????.....
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mate, thats nothing!!!!....


In my job role, I need to get references and process credit checks etc....

I've seen so many benefit claimers who don't seem "genuine".... ok, i got no proof, but you know that little feeling inside....

anyways.....1 case, i've seen with my own eyes!!!...

a guy (foreigner) who lives in a council flat was gona act as a guarantor for his brother (another foreigner) , so had to request financial info from the guarantor and found out about his status etc...

the facts:

the guy lives in a council flat....
get some kind of money from the council on a weekly basis...
got 3 kids...

HOWEVER, when i requested his bank statements, he had about £54k in his current a/c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....

now, i don't understand if someone has £54k in his current a/c....why is he getting benefits????????.....

but dont that make you sick,
only way the uk can move forward is to stop handouts full-stop even to uk chavs that claim and sit on there arse
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mate, thats nothing!!!!....


In my job role, I need to get references and process credit checks etc....

I've seen so many benefit claimers who don't seem "genuine".... ok, i got no proof, but you know that little feeling inside....

anyways.....1 case, i've seen with my own eyes!!!...

a guy (foreigner) who lives in a council flat was gona act as a guarantor for his brother (another foreigner) , so had to request financial info from the guarantor and found out about his status etc...

the facts:

the guy lives in a council flat....
get some kind of money from the council on a weekly basis...
got 3 kids...

HOWEVER, when i requested his bank statements, he had about £54k in his current a/c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....

now, i don't understand if someone has £54k in his current a/c....why is he getting benefits????????.....
So he can get that 54k up to 55k, 56k; etc.

Benefit system in this country is a pathetic joke. no departments talk to eachother so these obvious logical conclusions of fraudant claimants are never put together

2 + y is so often 4, ie: so open and shut. but the department with y at their disposal have no link to the department with x, or 2.

So that 2+2 = 4 never happens.

now at least with the CIS database and the work the DWP is doing, some of these variables are finally being stored together. But even then, the necessary people don't have access to the information etc.

Total; pathetic, mess.

The whole system is fucked. Because the whole reason it's exploted in the first place is down to how lucrative it is and how easy it is to claim in the first place.

don't even get me started on the fact that A. seekers get child benefits for kids that aren't even in the f*cking country !!!

Turn up, get council house: Get full benefits for 72 children back home.

f sake!

But erm. Uh oh. This topic is going in "that" direction..
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So he can get that 54k up to 55k, 56k; etc.

Benefit system in this country is a pathetic joke. no departments talk to eachother so these obvious logical conclusions of fraudant claimants are never put together

2 + y is so often 4, ie: so open and shut. but the department with y at their disposal have no link to the department with x, or 2.

So that 2+2 = 4 never happens.

now at least with the CIS database and the work the DWP is doing, some of these variables are finally being stored together. But even then, the necessary people don't have access to the information etc.

Total; pathetic, mess.

The whole system is fucked. Because the whole reason it's exploted in the first place is down to how lucrative it is and how easy it is to claim in the first place.

don't even get me started on the fact that A. seekers get child benefits for kids that aren't even in the f*cking country !!!

Turn up, get council house: Get full benefits for 72 children back home.

f sake!

But erm. Uh oh. This topic is going in "that" direction..
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i am trying to see it in her point on view which it could be no reason to shout her mouth off like that
but
she could work and feel xmas is coming soon and has no extra money and hears stories and people claiming like we have heard today and she blew her top, there got to be a reason behind it
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but dont that make you sick,
only way the uk can move forward is to stop handouts full-stop even to uk chavs that claim and sit on there arse

bloody sick mate!!!....but i can't voice too much....othewise people might think that i'm part of the BNP or racist....
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It's the read hair and the manic stare.


(Only joking Kerr, before I get accused of racism )
Aye, nae bother loon.

Like I said about the woman, she only is being abusive as she is drunk and clearly a halfwit.

What's your tipple?
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Immigration does need to be ironed out in the Country - I totally agree. I've know families abroad who have a fair bit of money and because their kids can't be arsed, they get married to someone here - come over and live off the system. A world wide system needs to be put in place - which is probably impossible, considering this Government doesn't know it's arse from it's elbow.

One thing we fail to mention here is that we can't really blame the people that do chose to come over. We don't know why they were given asylum. In comparison, we've all lived privileged to what some of them have had to experience. We can't blame them for wanting to come here and making something of their lives; thinking about the future of their children. The vast majority of them come here - take on a shitty job that the locals wouldn't touch with a barge - and live a working class life. I admire them people - because they haven't just given in and just waited for fate to deal them a bad card. It's the freeloaders that need to be filtered out.

That vile, disgusting chav doesn't have a point. She hasn't a clue about immigration or how it works - she just doesn't like the colours she see's - that much is evident. She doesn't realise how much foreigners have helped to grow her "British" into the economy it had become in the early naughties. One things for certain - our hospitals would be woefully short of spare hands if it weren't for some of our immigration laws...and we can never put a price on that.
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