I agree with Vector2 and braineck .. we are too quick to put a car down now a days if it slips a bit. I think that's where the skill comes in and tbh that's the bit I enjoy most about the M4. If/when I want to drive it fast, I know I have to respect the car and control it with things like throttle control, angle of entry to a bend and the speed. Love driving it with traction off as that's when I get the most thrill
.. just to clarify, I am not encouraging fast driving with traction off .. that's just how I enjoy it
