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      10-16-2021, 04:17 PM   #396
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My friend, you are taking on my old role: Trying to explain F1 to a couple of RBR fans. It's a fools' errand. I implore you to stop. Please keep up with the great and informative posts but the explanations will only see you frustrated.

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Originally Posted by F87source View Post
First everything you've countered with so far is just opinion based, more he said she said, I saw he saw. None of that will hold up in a court of law.


In regards to DAS Mercedes already consulted with the fia ahead of time, of course they have a back up plan Incase teams cry too much about new innovations and try to trigger a ban. This is because Mercedes thinks 10 steps ahead and are always ready, unlike redbull who knew they were pushing the limits with the rear flexi wing that flexed down and also rotated backwards to change wing angle - more on the flexi wing stuff in a bit. but the point is redbull were pushing the limits of the permitted wing flex grey area and had zero back up plan in case it was banned. Mercedes weren't even in a grey area, they had full approval and still they are 10 steps ahead just in case.


Now in response to flexiwings we all know no material has infinite stiffness under load, there must be a small amount of deformation. Since there is a permitted tolerance range of course every team is going to try to get into that grey area to capitalize on any but of advantage. Now how far they push the envelope varies from team to team, redbull likely pushed the envelope too far with a wing that not only flexed down but rotated backwards, and Mercedes likely haven't pushed to the limit of the rules being breached hence why one was banned and one was not. Again there are actual number based load tests to test this deformation, aka actual fact and the fia increased the load test even further to test fit the front and rear wings deformed too far. Red bull got caught out likely because they were literally ok the limit before the imcreasd load test, and Mercedes didn't get caught off because they likely weren't on the limit. If it was true Mercedes was being favored, I don't know how when you have physical numbers to go back on to prove if a wing flexed too much - say Mercedes did have a wing that failed inspection and the fia swept it under the rug, then red bull would have forced a law suit if they really believed that was the case and when they test it in court Mercedes would get absolutely screwed over. Again it didn't happen.

Also don't forget, this is only really the first year Mercedes has been complaining to the fia alot, the last few years it was Horner going all out at every team getting things banned left and right. Literally look at the thread put up on Reddit discussing redbulls complaints all the way back to 2015, it's insane how many things redbull had pushed towards the fia. That's why they call Horner, Karen Horner.


Like I said before when you hinge on opinions and conspiracy you just jump from one thing to another regardless if it passes the sniff test.
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